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To: edge919
I’ve read your posts already.

Then, clearly, you didn't understand them because your summary of my posts is factually incorrect.

No one mischaracterized antyhing.

If you aren't mischaracterizing my posts, then you're lying about them because you are still inaccurately summarizing what I posted.

You summed it up with the “one sentence” nonsense which is undermined by the itemized list that Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. wrote up.

I didn't sum up anything with reference to Onaka's one-sentence statement. My posts regarding Onaka's one-sentence statement were in response to the OP's claim that Hawaii didn't respond to Bennett's original request form.

If the only thing necessary to “certify” the entire alleged certificate and/or the “additional items” was the one sentence,

Yet again, I never said that.

then there was no point in compiling an itemized list of specific items,

I explained in post #103 and #132 that Onaka's response has TWO parts as required under the law. Here is what I said, verbatim in #132:

HRS 338-14.3 stipulates that the "Verification in lieu of a certified copy" has TWO parts: (1) the verification of the existence of a certificate AND (2) verification of any other information the applicant supplies.
As I said in post #103, Onaka's itemized list was provided under the second part of the verification requirements.

especially when Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. omitted a response to this requested information: “Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.”

Onaka didn't omit a response to that information. He replied as follows:

"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original in our files."
Here is the legal definition of the noun match.

match: (Duplicate), clone, companion, copy, equal, exact copy, exact duplicate, exact likeness, facsimile, likeness, mate, mirror, mirror copy, model, perfect likeness, reflection, replica, resemblance, semblance, the image, twin
In a court of law, Onaka's statement would be held to mean that the vital event data on the copy of the WH LFBC that Bennett submitted exactly matched the vital event data on the original vital record on file at the HDoH.

No court would hold that Onaka omitted a response or failed to respond to Bennett's "true and accurate representation" request.

It is foolish to claim that Onaka failed to comply with HRS 338-14.3 in any way.

175 posted on 05/29/2012 2:03:08 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Nobody mischaracterized anything you said. You’re going overbaord in trying to defend you’re post. I gave the direct quote that supported my point. The C&P of the definition of match is simply a sign of sheer desperation. Give it up.


176 posted on 05/29/2012 2:41:38 PM PDT by edge919
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