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To: dsc

“Absolutely correct. Japan gives a family about $3,000 for having a baby. However, not so long ago a government official was pilloried for proposing cash rewards to Japanese women for having babies.

Overpopulation is as big a myth as global warming. Have babies. My wife and I have six, and it’s been the greatest joy in my life.”

As Japan and Russia who does something similar demonstrate economic incentives are not really doing the trick. Why is it that so many of our “race” are not having “large” families?

I do you have any further insite into this issue? I’ve been working on it for the last 10-15 years. What ive found is a list of reasons:

1: Modern Culture: Many people over the last few decades look down upon people with “large families”, just as they shockingly look up to “unproductive” people with small or no families.

My question: What are we a culture of the dammed?

2: Abortion & contraceptive tech: Like it or not a lot of people choose not to go thou the “difficulties” of having large families fearing for the resources and sacfises they personally will have to make. Abortion & contraceptive tech has given them anther option.

My Suggestion: We might do well to adopt the catholic position on all theses issues: no abortion or contraception in the name of preserving our race? The fact that both of theses items constitute ending a human life to varying degrees is anther issue to consister.

3: Family structure: While not strictly speaking essentially to reproduction it is helpful to sucesfull child rearing, and large “litters”. Like it or not sense the for the last 50+ years all legal and cultural forces to hold together families into units have been torn down.

My Suggestion: They must be rebuilt probably by means of inventing a new(really original) definition/institution of marriage. One with the specifically enumerated aim of raising children. One that is financially and physically binding with no divorce.

To implement either of theses solutions may require a new state.
To change the culture requires ridicule to induce popular self-examination. People such as yourself need to be put forward as the ideal of American life. And to be frank we need to go beyond that because for everyone we get to there will be many whom we wont.

Simply telling everyone to have 3 kids is not going to work, they need to have 4,5 or more kids to make up for those who don’t. Take care and be proud of your family DSC.


52 posted on 05/19/2012 12:16:27 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
2: Abortion & contraceptive tech: Like it or not a lot of people choose not to go thou the “difficulties” of having large families fearing for the resources and sacfises they personally will have to make. Abortion & contraceptive tech has given them anther option.

I always had a story going on in my mind where a time traveller travels from the 1990s/2010s (or onward, it has been brewing in my mind for a while) where his mission is to assassinate the people who developed the birth control pill to stop it. The trouble is that someone else could come up with the idea, he'd need a couple of Mossad and Seal Team Sixes to take with him. B-P

I find your points very admirable, we need to be more marriage and family friendly. Divorce, I think there needs to be some sort of mechanism there, there are legitimate reasons for divorce but I think we do need to get rid of no fault divorce, basically that is just walking away on a whim. As to the rest, I like them, the only thing is that it might take the iron hand of government to enforce it and I don't know that under our system of a Constitutionally based government, we can do that. However, if we are to survive we do need to practice some, if not all, you posted.

If I was king, I'd implement all of them.

Also, I think we need to bring back matchmaking too. Not government of course, but in many communities like the Jewish community, they had matchmakers to match single men to single ladies, usually an older woman or a group of them. My great uncle was a Russian Jew who came over here. He was a concert level violinist. He was married once but was accused of bigamy and although he was deemed innocent, his wife divorced him. A few years later, a matchmaker matched him with an eligible 17/18 year old young lady, he was 45/50 at the time and despite the differences in ages, they did love each other and raised a family. This was like back in the 1930's.

I think matchmaking would help a few lonely guys as well, give them that extra push so to speak. I tend to suck at dating myself, maybe because I'm almost sure I have Asperger's. (I was slow to develop socially as a kid although highly intelligent, I had a battery of tests done, going over my test records, that sure would explain a lot. I'm a typical computer/ham radio nerd).

Another issue, economics, we need to foster an economy supportive to people supporting families much better. I know I cannot support a wife and kids on what I make, heck, with Mom and I, it is nip and tuck now. We need to make opportunities better with revising our tax policies to bring jobs here and back.

Also, we need to make sure our young people know about and assume responsibility at a younger age. In order to make this work, we need to do that. Most 17/18 year olds, heck, even 25+ year olds are not ready to do this, with the time of adolescence creeping up, you're taking valuable time to build a career and raise a family away. Sure is it OK to have fun, even though I'm in my mid 40's, I enjoy much the same things as a kid like adventure gaming and role playing games, but there is a time to hit the save button and take care of life.
56 posted on 05/20/2012 8:45:12 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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