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From what I’ve seen so far, the biggest piece of evidence released today isn’t the injuries (and certainly isn’t the THC). Apparently, one of the witnesses reported seeing one person chasing another. This case very well could turn on who was chasing who. If Martin was chasing Zimmerman, then Zimmerman is almost certainly in the clear. If, on the other hand, Zimmerman was chasing Martin, that would just about destroy Zimmerman’s self defense claim. It will be very interesting to see/hear more about that witness statement.


34 posted on 05/17/2012 4:17:55 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Mark my words....

Martin AMBUSHED Zimmerman after he lost sight of him and was walking back to his truck to meet the police.


43 posted on 05/17/2012 4:25:08 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Apparently, one of the witnesses reported seeing one person chasing another.

Can you cite a source? I have not seen that claim in any of the reports I have read yet.

45 posted on 05/17/2012 4:28:35 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“If, on the other hand, Zimmerman was chasing Martin, that would just about destroy Zimmerman’s self defense claim”

That would depend on a few things. What did the “chasing” constitute? Was it a full out run, or more akin to the “following” we’ve long heard about? I don’t know the law that well, does chasing constitute an instigation of violence? Would it allow Martin to turn on Zimmerman and engage him physically, or would the chasee be allowed only to meet violence with violence? If chasing is precipitous to violence is it in such a manner as to remove the possibility of asserting self-defense? Or can you defend youself if someone turns on and starts beating you even if you started it by chasing them?

That being said, at least that would be something for the prosecution to go on. So far all they have is Zimmerman having shot him, a following and a so-called “confrontation” instigated by Zimmerman. Also maybe, maybe not abiding what is not a lawful order and not really an order at all. Finally, a supposed depraved mindset based on nothing more than previous dislike of crime and unsupported charges of racial profiling.

If Zimmerman was chasing Martin I don’t know if that would sink his case entirely, but at least it would give the prosecution an excuse for trying him, aside from placating Al Sharpton.


47 posted on 05/17/2012 4:29:20 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“What you refer to as the “biggest piece of evidence” from what YOU’VE seen is certainly not something that the rest of us have heard much about - what site did you find this on (Democratic Underground perhaps)?? To most of the population, the injuries AND the THC in Travon’s blood are “big pieces of evidence.” While you may want to only address those pieces of evidence that back up your obvious defense of Travon, most of us are more interested in getting the ENTIRE story - justice requires that you get the whole story and not “cherry pick” to get the outcome you want.


53 posted on 05/17/2012 4:47:01 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“From what I’ve seen so far, the biggest piece of evidence released today.....”
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You seriously need to “get out more”. Open your eyes, and your googling fingers, and you’ll see an absolutely overwhelming amount of evidence (evidence, not speculations or someone wishing something was the case) that supports Zimmerman’s account of a self-defense shooting.


83 posted on 05/17/2012 5:32:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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