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To: kcvl

I just quickly went through that document. It looks like the witnesses did not see much; heard arguing - a strong loud voice - and then someone was yelling ‘help!’. One says Trayvon was on top of on top of George. Some of the statements were diffcult to read. I don’t see anything in these initial witness statments that justify second degree murder charges.

It looks like the meme that Zimmerman should have “stayed in his car” came from a cop who recommended he be charged with manslaughter. He or she claimed the confrontation would not have happened if Z had stayed in the car and waited for officers. Also suggested Z could have talked to Trayvon and told him he was a concerned neighbor and asked him what he was doing.

I did not see anything we do not already know.


179 posted on 05/17/2012 4:06:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Fox News report this afternoon said there were a lot of documents (as if to say they had not had time to analyze everything yet). They highlighted the point that a cop wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter because he hadn't stayed in his car.

From what I understand, he was out of his car when he first saw Trayvon, and after being told they didn't need him to keep following Trayvon, he was on his way back to the car when Trayvon jumped him.

So how does that make him guilty of not staying in his car?

Some of the witnesses confirmed that it was Zimmerman calling for help. One woman thought that the guy on top was the heavier man. That doesn't fit what we know of Trayvon and Zimmerman's relative sizes, but it was dark and she may have been questioned some time afterwards. Anyway I think it is common for eyewitnesses to have conflicting memories of what they saw.

Fox seemed to want to support the special prosecutor as much as they could. Later Bill O'Reilly was talking about what a great guy Crump is (the Martins' lawyer).

239 posted on 05/17/2012 8:53:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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