[Grampa Dave]

Suze has a double whammy against her as a left wing lesbian:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=Suzie+Orman+is+a+liberal+lesbian&form=HPDTDF&pc=HPDTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

I don’t follow Ramsey that much, but when I have heard him, he talks about general ways to get out of debt. His thoughts have matched mine when our relatives asked what to do not be like their left wing IOUers acquaintances.

[SierraWasp]

His get out of debt advice is not what I criticize. His advice to get out of tax deferred and tax free savings and all permanent life insurance is most times irrational and based on one of his emotions, not the clients long term needs.

Suze gave horrible advice during the liberal inspired government driven housing price boom. So she simply dismissed the misery she made worse by saying that it's just a "sad" situation.

Neither she, nor Ramsey are invested right along with their disciples and they're success is not tied directly to their disciples success. They are just like all other talk "show" people, paid by ads and occasional speaking fees. After offering their advice they are free to walk away and say "geeze, that's too bad" when they make a mistake.

They don't even have to have any kind of license and don't even have to carry professional liability insurance to cover their errors and omissions. The can just shoot off their mouths with total abandon just like Brinker and many others!!!