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"In 21st-century Amsterdam, you’re free to smoke marijuana and pick out a half-naked sex partner from the front window of her shop. But you can be put on trial for holding the wrong opinion about a bloke who died in the seventh century."


1 posted on 05/14/2012 5:32:09 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

Where’s the link?


2 posted on 05/14/2012 5:36:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’ve heard of Wilders but never read or watched any of his stuff. I saw an interview with him Friday and it was the very first time I ever saw anyone besides me say, in front of God and everybody, that Islam should be treated as a political belief and not as a religion.

In fact, it was kinda creepy just how many obscure opinions he and I both share regarding islam.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 5:50:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That quote makes me speculate about the cause when the effect is the rise of islam and islamic terror.


7 posted on 05/14/2012 6:02:30 AM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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“So it is necessary for more of us to do what Ayaan Hirsi Ali recommends: share the risk. So that the next time a novel or a cartoon provokes a fatwa, it will be republished worldwide and send the Islamic enforcers a message: Killing one of us won’t do it. You’d better have a great credit line at the Bank of Jihad because you’ll have to kill us all.”

Thank you, Mark, for that defiant stand. However, at some point we will have to move from a defiant DEFENSIVE stand to an OFFENSE. The longer we wait to go on the offense in the discussion of ideas then the greater the probability our offense of discussing ideas will have to be replaced with an offense of force.

Otherwise, they will “kill us all”.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 6:37:22 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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We must not sit back and pretend that this is not a problem here. Our own government is giving Islam a pass on everything...to include obedience to American laws, Obamacare, allowing Shariah law in muslim-dominant neighborhoods, etc. We need to take back America before it is too late!


14 posted on 05/14/2012 7:29:52 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Servant of the Cross
As John Milton wrote in his Areopagitica of 1644, “Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience.” It is a tragedy that Milton’s battles have to be re-fought three-and-a-half centuries on, but the Western world is shuffling into a psychological bondage of its own making. Geert Wilders is not ready to surrender without exercising his right to know, to utter, and to argue freely — in print, on screen, and at the ballot box. We should cherish that spirit, while we can.

God Bless Steyn, keep him safe and free...

15 posted on 05/14/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The numbers are against us which leaves us with
the only alternative, to destroy the pillars
of their faith, to bring their own beliefs into
question. I believe the total destruction of
Mecca would have such an effect coupled with
sufficient propaganda directed toward Allah
punishing the faithful for their actions.

In a war of attrition we cannot win
but we do have the power to win
we must make up our minds to use it.


17 posted on 05/14/2012 9:19:21 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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That is really an excellent and powerful essay Steyn wrote as the forward to the Wilder’s book.

This passage really stood out to me:

‘’ ... It’s not necessary to agree with everything Mr. Wilders says in this book — or, in fact, anything he says — to recognize that, when the leader of the third-biggest party in one of the oldest democratic legislatures on earth has to live under constant threat of murder and be forced to live in “safe houses” for almost a decade, something is badly wrong in “the most tolerant country in Europe” — and that we have a responsibility to address it honestly, before it gets worse.”


21 posted on 05/14/2012 10:05:53 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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From Gates of Vienna, "At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Geert Wilders is the Churchill fighting in the trenches. He deserves our support. We need many Geert Wilders in America!

"A society that becomes more Muslim will have less of everything else, including individual liberty."

"Geert Wilders is not ready to surrender without exercising his right to know, to utter, and to argue freely — in print, on screen, and at the ballot box. We should cherish that spirit, while we can."

We are Breitbart and Wilders!

Jihad Watch

23 posted on 05/14/2012 11:20:50 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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The Spirit of Geert Wilders [Steyn]

Those who seek to analyze Islam outside the very narrow bounds of Eutopian political discourse wind up either banned (Belgium’s Vlaams Blok), forced into exile (Ayaan Hirsi Ali), or killed (Fortuyn, van Gogh). - How speedily “the most tolerant country in Europe” has adopted “shoot the messenger” as an all-purpose cure-all for “Islamophobia.”

It’s not “ironic” that the most liberal country in western Europe should be the most advanced in its descent into a profoundly illiberal hell. ... It was entirely foreseeable, and ... all Geert Wilders is doing is stating the obvious: A society that becomes more Muslim will have less of everything else, including individual liberty.

The article is worth the read; check it out.

Thanks, anonymous.

24 posted on 05/14/2012 12:14:16 PM PDT by LucyT
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It isn't Islam alone that is the problem, either there or in Canada or, increasingly, in the U.S. The difficulty is that the way for the most radical form of Islam is paved by multicultural precepts and fanatics who have worked their way into the highest offices in academia and government. These pretend to believe that one culture is to be regarded equally with another but act in practice as if Western culture is inherently oppressive and needs to be deliberately curtailed. Into that gap come radicals whose violence is excused or justified. Of course they're not going to stop under those conditions; why should they?

The problem is not simply a highly organized culture of thuggery that will take whatever it is offered - that, alas, is what has happened to the main current of Islam once oil money purchased a revolutionary movement, and not for the first time in the bloody history of that faith. To the modern observer it seems grotesque to claim that once it was among the more tolerant of religions but once, a very long time ago, it was. No longer.

The difference is that it became tolerant only when its excesses were opposed by force, and that is precisely what multiculturalism has taken on as its signal purpose to prevent. It is a lesson in human behavior that transcends religion: thuggery must be opposed by force. That force must evince itself not only internationally but, and perhaps even more importantly, within a culture that is under prodding for weakness: Europe's cultures and our own only to a slightly lesser extent, and only for the time being. Not to do so is to commit suicide, as near as anyone can tell, the suicide of Western culture is the multiculturalists' holy grail.

If the rule of law - OUR law, Constitutional law, not Shari'a - is not imposed with whatever force is necessary, it is worthless. Here is where multiculturalism is the biggest problem - one law, and not Special Rules For Special People, not law twisted in the favor of someone's illusion of "social justice," to right historic wrongs, to "even the playing field", but one law for everyone. That is the only way we will be able to live with Islam in our society. It, and not we, must submit.

30 posted on 05/14/2012 1:48:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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And then I took a stroll in the woods, and felt vaguely ashamed at the ease with which I was willing to hand a small victory to his enemies.

Too bad you didn't take a longer stroll over enemies closer to home.

31 posted on 05/14/2012 2:12:33 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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Yet the same political class responsible for this unprecedented “demographic substitution” (in the words of French demographer Michèle Tribalat) insists the subject remain beyond discussion

Law of Unintended Consequences. Political correctness was foisted by the left upon the West as a tool to weaken it from within. But along the way, they got outflanked by the Muslims, who moved in quicker and more forcefully.

33 posted on 05/14/2012 3:09:48 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Two winners:

“So you’re not a pedophile if you deflower the kid in fourth grade but keep her around till high school?”

“So it is necessary for more of us to do what Ayaan Hirsi Ali recommends: share the risk. So that the next time a novel or a cartoon provokes a fatwa, it will be republished worldwide and send the Islamic enforcers a message: Killing one of us won’t do it. You’d better have a great credit line at the Bank of Jihad because you’ll have to kill us all.”


35 posted on 05/14/2012 5:47:59 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Criticizing Mad Mo cost Theo Van Gogh his life.


38 posted on 05/14/2012 10:14:37 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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