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To: SZonian

You’re mismeasuring. Scouting isn’t the main thrust of the youth program for the LDS. I’m impressed by your Scouting resume and dedication to Scouting. That said I’ve never met non-LDS Scouting leadership that didn’t praise the LDS and their dedication to Scouting.

Out of the more than a dozen LDS kids in Scouting I know nearly 3/4s have gotten or are on their way to getting an Eagle Scout. How many kids just drop out? My Catholic friends we really wanted their son to get Eagle were disappointed that he dropped out of Scouting altogether.

My personal experience is that much if not most of Scouting is parent driven. If it is important to the parents then the kids stay on it. Blaming or attacking the LDS for their Scouting program is a function of anti-Mormonism, not reality.

I’m sorry they “failed” your son, but you don’t seem like an objective source for facts about LDS Scouting.


132 posted on 05/15/2012 4:33:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Your pro-mormon bias is showing...again, and you keep including your favorite pejorative.

If, as you claim, Scouting isn’t the “main thrust”, what is it besides a meat grinder for young 11 year old Scouts? How many more families need to bury their children before the LDS decide it’s time to get serious and address their own failings instead of blaming the BSA for their problems?

That you are incapable of even showing how my credibility on the topic, besides my theological disagreement with mormonism should be in question, demonstrates your own pro-mormon bias and an inability to objectively evaluate the constant and persistent failures of the “activity arm” of the LDS. If the “President” states that something should be so, why isn’t it? Who are these men who dare to disobey their “prophet” so blatantly?

I clearly stated and gave evidence that the strawman you put forth was just that. Hollow to the core, yet, you won’t accept it.

The Stake Presidencies, the Bishoprics and the YM presidents all represent the “church”, the ones directly responsible for each ward’s scouting “activities”, ergo, they’re culpable.

Do yourself a favor, if you’re even remotely interested in the truth, google LDS scouting deaths due to leader’s negligence. You might just learn a thing or 2.

Then again, I don’t view you as an “objective” source either, that makes us even. I will dispel or refute your misinformation for as long as I need to. I will not stand by and watch a mormon apologist lay the blame for LDS failures at someone else’s feet.

Although, it is sanctioned after all, “lying for the lord”, it’s what good mormons are trained to do vs. protecting the kids in their charge.


133 posted on 05/15/2012 8:57:41 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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