Your practiced deceptions are not hidden from those who have studied MormonISM and the LDS inc methods for deceiving people. Did you even read the quotes I posted for you? Can you even acknowledge your deceit, so evident when you mischaracterize opposition to the ISM as hating the adherents? Your purposed effort to conflate what Jesus told the leaders in His day was the work God commands for salvation and hinting/inveigling that God demands you keep the Ten Commandments in order to be worthy of salvation, well, you're practicing deception to defend the ISM, not to hold up Christianity as The Way. Mormonism is demonically inspired.
No deception whatsoever MHG, I simply quoted the Bible. You are free to read it and interpret it however you wish. When Christ says, “If ye love me, keep my commandments,” and the Apostle John says what he says, we take them at face value, and I believe they are pretty straight forward.
Then we look to the scriptures and the words of Christ to see what He commanded...like in the Sermon on the Mount and elsewhere throughout the New Testament, and of course for us, during His appearances to Prophets in the Americas and His visit there after His resurrection, and of course the scripture we have as a result of the Restoration of His Church.
Then we try and do so...and of course we are not perfect at it. That’s the whole point. He has suffered for and paid already for our mistakes, but it is clear from His words, that we will try and it will be as a result of the conviction of our hearts. Then He will judge us accordingly...which judgement I look forward to.
We do not believe those particular things over-ride Chirst’s atonmement in the least. Withtout His saving grace they are meaningless. But if we accept Him, then He himself says that apparently the conviction resulting from that conversion in our hearts, and our love for Him will lead us to “keep His commandments.”
That is not deceptive. That is not a conspiracy. That is the simple truth.
As to your volumous (and others) postings about the LDS Faith...we have discussed those at length in the past. The vast majority of them come from the Journal of Discourses and other places which has not been cannonized and officially recognized as scripture by the Church.
The men who are called as Apostles and Prophets are not perfect, anymore than the ones called in the Old and New Testament were and their is ample evidence in the scriptures themselves of this. They speak their own mind...and we should listen and glean the truth for us according to the Holy Ghost. But when it is “scripture,” as I have discussed with you before, there is a set process through which our leaders go in order to define it and announce it as such to the members of the Church and to the world.
I do not need to, or intend to, rehash that again with you and the other “flying Inmans.” My discussion with Goreknowshowtocheat had nothing to do with that, and you are injecting yourself into our conversation to raise issues which you already know my answers to...you just don’t like the answers.
I was simply discussing the matter of keeping Christ’s commandments with Goreknowshowtocheat. Apparently you take issue with those comments...and that is fine.
But I was talking to Goreknowshowtocheat and we will continue our conversation, your misgivings and...no disrespect intended...but what I consider to be your railings, notwithstanding.
Hope you had a GREAT Mother’s Day, you and yours, and that the Peace of Christ was with you there.