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Are Baby Boomers Stealing Jobs from the Young? (Part 1)
Townhall.com ^ | May 12, 2012 | Political Calculations

Posted on 05/12/2012 6:28:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

Walter Russell Mead writes on the disappearance of jobs for non-Baby Boomers:

An analysis of recent jobs figures at Investor.com reveals a disturbing development: the biggest beneficiaries from the economic recovery are Boomers, while everyone else is getting the shaft.

Since the Obama administration took office, there has been an epochal shift. Young workers have continued to lose jobs and incomes, while older workers have actually gained ground.

In fact, the Obama administration has seen a boom in the prospects of the 55+ crowd; their (I should say ‘our’) employment stands at a 42 year high. Net, there are 3.9 new jobs for people over 55 since the recession began in December 2007, but there are 8.1 million fewer jobs for the young folks since that time.

Jed Graham's IBD article features a chart that shows the employment-to-population ratio that applies for the following age groupings: Age 16-24, Age 25-55 and Age 55 and up:

The Great Generational Job Divide = Source: Investor's Business Daily

In the chart, we see that those Age 55 and older would appear to have a near constant share of their population group having jobs.

Meanwhile, we see significant decreases in the employment share of the populations for both the Age 25-54 group and especially for the Age 16-24 group since December 2007, which marks the beginning of the so-called "Great Recession".

We thought that outcome was interesting enough to dig deeper into the data to see how the age distribution of the U.S. workforce has changed over this period of time.

And to make it really interesting, we've decided to go back to November 2006 to do it. Here's why:

  1. The seasonally-adjusted level of total employment for the U.S. economy hit its all time peak in November 2007, just ahead of the Great Recession. Going back to November 2006 will allow us to capture the last full year of economic expansion for the U.S. economy.
  2. Coincidentally, the seasonally-adjusted number of teens (Age 16-19), who represent the lowest end of the age groups for which the BLS reports monthly jobs data, and is also the most negatively affected group over this period of time, last peaked in November 2006. Going back to this point in time will also fully capture what has happened with teen employment in the years since.
  3. The BLS breaks almost all of its age-related jobs data into five-year long cohorts, covering groupings like Age 20 to 24, Age 25 to 29, Age 30 to 34, et cetera. Going back to November 2006 will allow us to see how the employment situation for the same people whose employment was recorded in one of the age groups in November 2006 changed after they all moved up into the next higher age cohort in November 2011.

The downside to our more detailed approach is that we're not going to be able to use the BLS' seasonally-adjusted data for these older five-year age groupings, because the BLS only reports the non-seasonally adjusted data it collects for them, which means that the data we'll be using won't match these more commonly reported values.

Still, because we'll be comparing the data for the same month (November) five years apart, our analysis should only differ in very minor respects from what might be achieved using seasonally-adjusted data, if it had been available.

We're going to do this in a three-part series of posts, with this post being the first. Our next stop: the change in the age distribution of the American workforce from November 2006 to November 2011!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; boomers; employment; jobs
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

241 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:38 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

242 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

243 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

244 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

245 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

246 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm 57 and in an electrical engineering avionics department where my cohorts all all under 40. My boss, who's 35, btw, intended to milk me for my experience and give all the plum assignments to the younger guys, quite likely probably intending on laying me off after he felt I was out of things to contribute.

But now he's finding out that my experience and the creativity that comes from really knowing what I'm doing just doesn't automatically come from whomever he can find who doesn't have that experience.

So, contrary to me 'stealing' the jobs of all these younger guys, it may well turn out that in the long run, I'm a significant factor in keeping them in *their* jobs.

247 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:49 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

248 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


249 posted on 05/12/2012 7:52:47 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

250 posted on 05/12/2012 7:53:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Black_Shark
LOL. Everyone knows you are superior to all other generations. Look, you posted in a thread that claims that Boomers are stealing jobs from younger workers, and you wonder why people that are trying to make ends meet have little sympathy for your whining? LOL>

Good luck in your job search, I do realize how hard it is out there to get a job. Keep trying, your first job probably won't be your dream job, but down the road a good one will come along. On that I am being very serious.

251 posted on 05/12/2012 7:53:54 PM PDT by bfree (OBAMI IS THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM)
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To: Post Toasties

252 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


253 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


254 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


255 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


256 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

sorry about all the repeat posts. i have a crap internet service that often has huge delays in responding (like 15 minutes or more to a click), so sometimes I just keep clicking rather than lose a post I think is worthwhile.


257 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Post Toasties

WOW!

Twenty Two reposts! (Well, twenty one not counting the original)

This has got to be the record!


258 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:43 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Post Toasties

We appreciate your diligence.


259 posted on 05/12/2012 7:57:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Please delete all my redundant posts. For this one, I'm going to click once and then close the thread which is pretty awkward, considering I had to click 7 or 8 times just to get this dialogue box to open.

Again, sorry about that. In the future I will try clicking once and then closing the thread then trying to reopen it later, with my crap internet service (Clear).

260 posted on 05/12/2012 8:03:39 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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