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George Zimmerman: Did he shoot Trayvon Martin in self defense? (Video walkthrough of scene)
WJLA-TV ^ | Thursday, May 10, 2012 | Scott Thuman

Posted on 05/10/2012 9:18:10 PM PDT by kristinn

George Zimmerman admits he shot and killed Trayvon Martin. But was it self defense?

ABC7's Scott Thuman went inside the Sanford, Florida neighborhood where the shooting happened.

He talks with Frank Taaffe, a friend of Zimmerman's, and a former neighborhood watch volunteer himself, who says it was self defense.

Taafe shows us what he says eye witnesses told him happened that night in the Twin Lakes neighborhood.

In this now infamous neighborhood, there's almost as much foot traffic as vehicle traffic. There's a cut-through frequented by kids, some following the very same footsteps as Trayvon Martin.

But in an area hit by thieves, up to 11 times in 14 months, and where property value has plummeted, there was also plenty of suspicion.

"He's parked here, the vehicles in this direction and he watches Trayvon come down here, stares at him out his window and according to George he circles around the car here and he heads back off in this direction here," Taaffe says.

(Excerpt) Read more at wjla.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; lmm; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanevidence; zimmermantimeline
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To: mylife

Not beyond arms length. The fired empty was still in the firing chamber, so the slide was prevented from extracting and reloading a round. The poster trying to float this latest crap is trying to parlay the lack of average readers’ gun knowledge.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 10:47:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Theoria

All that matters is if Martin was far enough away that Zimmerman could have escaped, and even that is questionable if Zimmerman had been attacked and was dazed.

I don’t think I would shoot beyond 25 feet just because it gets hard to explain.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 10:51:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Theoria
I think Martin and Zimmerman separated after Martin was beating on top of him. Then, from a distance, GZ shot Martin. I don't think the State would go after him, unless they had some form of forensic science to back up their Prosecution.

100% speculation that goes against everything publically known about the incident.

23 posted on 05/10/2012 10:52:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MHGinTN

Sounds like it was up front and personal to me.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 10:53:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
No, I think the shooting was justified. I think if you are getting beat, you have to put someone down. The threat is there.

My apologies if there are other police reports out there.

25 posted on 05/10/2012 10:55:38 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

No worries, Its late.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 10:58:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MHGinTN
'The fired empty was still in the firing chamber'

You got a link, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

27 posted on 05/10/2012 11:00:47 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

I’m not sure there would have been significant blood where the bullet entered. The bleeding probably would have been internal and on the exit side.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 11:13:17 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Theoria
What he is saying is the semi-auto Keltec had an expended case in the chamber which means the slide did not eject it and cycle a new round into the chamber. The only way for that to happen is for someone to have their hand wrapped around the pistol as in a struggle for control of the weapon. This agrees with Georges’ statement that Martin was trying to gain control of the weapon.
29 posted on 05/10/2012 11:13:42 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Polynikes
'What he is saying is the semi-auto Keltec had an expended case in the chamber which means the slide did not eject it and cycle a new round into the chamber. '

Yes, I understand. I've shot and used a PF9 several times. But, I've not read a police report that has any info about the weapon. Just a cursory report of what type. Nothing about a round in the chamber. If could have happened like that or it could be a meme.

I've seen it come up several times, but no source to it other than speculation. If someone has seen a source or report, then I will favor their pov.

And, I apologize if I'm behind the curve on said report.

30 posted on 05/10/2012 11:18:37 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

I’m googling around and most of the info I’m seeing says that bullet entrance wounds don’t bleed much:

http://www.centrahealth.com/health-library/p/1178-puncture-wounds

If your contention is that Z had to have shot Martin from a distance because there was no blood on him, I think you’re on shaky ground.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 11:30:38 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: kristinn

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32 posted on 05/10/2012 11:31:21 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: kristinn

I’m afraid that if Zimmerman gets off, that moron Holder is going to file ANOTHER lawsuit against Arizonans and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 11:32:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: Theoria

Or do you have evidence that blood splatters forward from a bullet wound like in a Hollywood movie? If so, please present it and maybe we’ll favor your pov.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 11:35:59 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Not everything is the same. I've seen different types of wounds, some small, some very large from being shot.

I'm not doubting that GZ is innocent, just some of it don't make sense.

35 posted on 05/10/2012 11:39:19 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

But it do make sense. Most bullet entrance wounds from a pistol are puncture wounds that don’t bleed much. So the apparent lack of blood splatter on Zimmerman is to be expected.


36 posted on 05/10/2012 11:55:27 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Thanks, night.


37 posted on 05/11/2012 12:01:32 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

What makes you think that blood spurts forward from a close range “blast”?

Movies?

Do you know how small a 9mm bullet is?

You know, you are a prime example of the reason self defense shootings shouldn’t go to trial, because there are FAR TOO many people who think they know everything but in actuality KNOW NOTHING.

Would not want you on my jury or anyone else’s jury at all.


38 posted on 05/11/2012 12:02:13 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
I've was in the military long enough to know that not all cheat trauma is hollywood. As for the jury aspect, I've said he's innocent until science proves otherwise. If the State went ahead with their Prosecution without anything forensic to back up their claim, then the citizens of Florida will be paying GZ for his ordeal.
39 posted on 05/11/2012 12:27:09 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria
Gun that killed Florida teen was fired once not twice by crime watch volunteer

Police found a single shell casing at the scene, and when they seized George Zimmerman’s handgun, a Kel Tel 9 mm, its magazine was full, according to a source close to the investigation. The only bullet missing was the one in the chamber, the source said.

There is the source of this info. No, the link there won't work because the Boston Herald and all other publications have scrubbed this story from the net. But it's not a "meme" made up by FReepers and that's very insulting and disgusting to even suggest that.

Here is another respected author who talks about it so he read the report too.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN AND TRAYVON MARTIN: WHAT WE DON’T KNOW Massad Ayoob

40 posted on 05/11/2012 12:44:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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