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RE :”I get really tired of hearing the GOP talking point about how Hispanics are “pro-life, pro-traditional family, social conservatives who are natural Republicans”. It's a nice soundbite, but looking at real life voters I know, it just isn't true. If anything, black voters are actually more socially conservative than Hispanic voters. That's ironic because blacks vote 90-95% RAT whereas Hispanics vote 60-70% RAT, but I can tell you I've met alot more blacks who are “pro-life and pro-traditional marriage” (but routinely vote for Obama and other far left Dems anyway) than I've met Hispanics who agree with me on those issues.”

I have met a few moderate/liberal black Republicans in Maryland but that is a small %. Most blacks have a very strong trust in the Federal government to protect them and help them, and history shows why they would, They see the the 1960s civil rights era and the FBI vs the KKK in Alabama case as a model.

as I posted on another thread, Republicans can take advantage of Obama’s confession by running independent organization issue ads in black and Latino areas in the South that show Obama sucking up to rich looking white gays and Hollywood gay types for $$$$, while things got worse in their areas under Obama. But Rs must understand the dynamics, Turnout in those groups in 2012 can be made to be much lower than it was in 2008, much like Romney will repress some turnout on the R side..

Another argument to use for above,:ask blacks if they are insulted when libs claim that gays are the new Jim Crowe era blacks. I find that one really works well, See if they are willing trivialize their own civil rights history to support the Democrat LGBT revolution, and this can be fun too, because it hits a great nerve,

It could be so easy, but Republicans big R are pretty dense.

“Another argument to use for above,:ask blacks if they are insulted when libs claim that gays are the new Jim Crowe era blacks. I find that one really works well, See if they are willing trivialize their own civil rights history to support the Democrat LGBT revolution, and this can be fun too, because it hits a great nerve,”

Yes it does!

“...much like Romney will repress some turnout on the R side..”

This issue will make Christians and other groups that were “ehh” or doubtful about Romney vote for Romney (actually, against Obama).

Obama needs the volume of votes to perpetrate voter fraud. If enough of his 2008 voters say on the sidelines, that can't happen.

That, coupled with an advertising campaign like you laid out would be DEVASTATING to Obama.

Personally, I think he's going to lose anyway, this cements it.

BillyBoy: You're spot on. This supposed HUGE block of values voters exists like a perfect round of golf exists - only in theory. A "gimme" crowd is a "gimme" crowd, even if they use a church as a background prop.

Billyboy: I get really tired of hearing the GOP talking point about how Hispanics are “pro-life, pro-traditional family, social conservatives who are natural Republicans

I live in Texas. My next door neighbor is 100% hispanic and a retired state employee with a state pension, but he is against Obama, Hillary, and thinks that today unions are making outrageous demands.He doesn't like Rick Perry because he thinks he is crooked.

However, I believe amnesty would give voting rights to very few like him. And even new legal immigrants vote mostly for Dems.