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To: Mrs. Don-o

“That vitiates marriage to the point where is is disappearing among straight people (half of the children born to women under 30 in 2011 were born out of wedlock).”

Laws & attorneys destroyed marriage between straight people; when T-shirts are sold asking: “Why get married? Find a nasty lady and buy her a house.” that says about all we need to know about the state of marriage today. Till boredom or the slightest setback do we part (with the financials stacked against the guy).

“It also tends to redefine marriage as something which essentially “about” the gratification of adult desires, rather than something that is essentially “about” creating a family by begetting and raising children. That redefinition suits the ideology of gay marriage to a T.”

Separating the sexual act from procreation isn’t the root of “homosexual marriage” (though they come to the same conclusion - no children); it is simply another symptom of the post-Christianity period of our history. “Homosexual couples” often like to buy children to “play family”.


61 posted on 05/11/2012 3:43:50 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
Granted there's a lot of factors here, and some of them form continuous feedback loops. I still say the big enabling technology was contraception. Enabling what? Enabling the redefinition of sex. Now instead of being "something that generates and sustains families and societies across the two genders and the 10,000 generations," it's "something we two want." Once 98% of the heterosexuals bought into the redefinition, it was easy, and in fact inevitable, for the 2% of homosexuals to say "Yeah, now that it's basically about twosiness, that's for us. That's exactly for us."

You refer to the fact that some gay couples like to acquire children and "play family" as a kind of accessory, an expensive luxury like raising prize dogs. But before the triumph of the contraceptive mentality, having children wasn't just a lifestyle option: it was a physical fact, one of the central facts of sexual commitment. That's why the urgency of "commitment" was there at all.

If it weren't for small dependent human beings being generated from sex, nobody would have ever thought of marriage. It would never have been invented. Why would people ask for religious solemnities or civil licensure or social approbation, for doing sterile jiggity with their excitable bits?

62 posted on 05/11/2012 8:47:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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