You fail to understand the tea party. The tea party movement is centered on the understanding that massive deficits, excessive taxation and regulation, and cronyism will cause America's economy to collapse.
Social conservatives who are wise will be glad for the tea party movement and will help pitch a big tent in the near term while seeking converts to the social conservative cause over the medium term. Foolish social conservatives with no wisdom and no game will demand that the tea party movement be anti-abortion and anti-gay from the start and in this way weaken and divide it.
Obama, the leftists in general, and Satan are counting on the short-sighted social conservatives to save them from the tea party movement.
It really depends on the TEA party. Some are TEA party in name only. Some are inventions of the democrats. Some are Ron Paul. Some are tax only. Some are full conservative - economy, social, defense.
That is why you must be very careful as to knowing what any particular TEA party is about.
They did a survey of TEA parties and found that social conservatives made up 47% of the TEA parties they surveyed. Social conservatives were the largest group within the TEA parties, just as they are the largest group within the republican party.
Survey | Religion and the Tea Party in the 2010 Elections
Nearly Half of Tea Party Movement also identify with Christian Conservative Movement
http://publicreligion.org/research/2010/10/religion-tea-party-2010/
Both the democrats and the RINOs would love to kill off both the social conservatives and the TEA party. For all their talk about social conservatives being a problem, given what has happened all around tonight, I’d say those marxists and socialists are not having very much success.
"cause otherwise you can't get their votes.
And just how many Democrat voters are you going to find to make up the deficiency?
I"d think giving up the baby killing thing would be very easy to do IF you are really serious about politics and want to win. (not to be all that cynical, but good gosh "fiscal soundness' requires we have a constant, steady supply of new citizens).
132 posted on Wed May 09 2012 01:03:39 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by rogue yam: “You fail to understand the tea party. The tea party movement is centered on the understanding that massive deficits, excessive taxation and regulation, and cronyism will cause America's economy to collapse. Social conservatives who are wise will be glad for the tea party movement and will help pitch a big tent in the near term while seeking converts to the social conservative cause over the medium term. Foolish social conservatives with no wisdom and no game will demand that the tea party movement be anti-abortion and anti-gay from the start and in this way weaken and divide it. Obama, the leftists in general, and Satan are counting on the short-sighted social conservatives to save them from the tea party movement.”
135 posted on Wed May 09 2012 01:26:35 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Waryone: “Both the democrats and the RINOs would love to kill off both the social conservatives and the TEA party. For all their talk about social conservatives being a problem, given what has happened all around tonight, I’d say those marxists and socialists are not having very much success.”
All of you raise **REALLY** important points.
I understand coalition politics. None of the three legs of the conservative stool — social, economic or national defense conservatives — have enough voters in many districts and most states to win elections on their own. If we don't get to 50 percent, we lose to a Democrat who in most cases will be worse than even the worst Republican candidate.
That means I have no problem supporting someone who is a political conservative whose primary interest is economics or the military but doesn't profess to be born again, provided, as muawiyah points out, that they're not pro-abortion. After all, punishing evildoers is one of the key tasks of civil government under Romans 13, and abortion is murder, plain and simple.
However, is it too much to ask that people who are not social issues conservatives refrain from attacking the Judeo-Christian principles on which this country was founded, or ridiculing the faith commitments of religious believers?
I cut my teeth in conservative politics long before I was converted to evangelical Christianity. I understand both sides of the fence on this, and things are much better today in the Republican Party for evangelicals and conservative Roman Catholics than they were in the 1980s.
The problem is it needs to be a two-way street.
I'm willing to support someone like Newt Gingrich if he's the best candidate (or in his case, was the best candidate left after others pulled out). After all, there's no doubt Gingrich is a historian and understands the roots of Western civilization. He wasn't my first choice, but he was **WAY** better than what we've got now.
Are people who don't share social conservative positions willing to support avowed evangelical Protestants or conservative Roman Catholics who are generally conservative on economic or national defense issues but maybe not perfect? Or do they expect us to stay at the back of the bus, waiting for some future date at which it will be the “right time” for our concerns about moral collapse to be addressed?
Coalitions can and do work, but they work only when the coalition partners understand that compromises can't be one-sided.