Replies

everything you said makes sense except this:

“The harsh reality is nothing other than Conservatives failed to sell their message to the bulk of the Republican electorate.”

Freepers have been so busy bashing Romney that they have failed to actually listen to him and his campaign - he’s been running as a conservative. immigration, taxes, business regs, energy, prolife, etc.

His campaign now is about beleiving in America again, he’s trying to repeat the Reagan 1980 campaign.

The lesson is that the conservative message does sell. Even when the sellers arent conservatives.

Problem is that Robozombie has never dione ANYTHING but LIE in politics for his whole miserable elitist life. He considers himself ENTITLED to be POTUS as a second generation GOP-E and he despises the voters he has to face in primaries. Thus, he jams the process (like electronic jamming) by carpet-bombing primary state after primary state with endlessly repeated slanders and libels and other lies about his opponents. This amounts to the rich mushball man's political tactic of sticking his thumbs in his ears, waggling his fingers, closing his eyes and whining again and again: " I can't HEAR you!!! Actual conservatives are just returning the tactic and the favor by similarly ignoring what he SAYS.

You know the foolproof test for knowing when Mittwit lies: His lips move.

Problem is that Robozombie has never dione ANYTHING but LIE in politics for his whole miserable elitist life. He considers himself ENTITLED to be POTUS as a second generation GOP-E and he despises the voters he has to face in primaries. Thus, he jams the process (like electronic jamming) by carpet-bombing primary state after primary state with endlessly repeated slanders and libels and other lies about his opponents. This amounts to the rich mushball man's political tactic of sticking his thumbs in his ears, waggling his fingers, closing his eyes and whining again and again: " I can't HEAR you!!! Actual conservatives are just returning the tactic and the favor by similarly ignoring what he SAYS.

You know the foolproof test for knowing when Mittwit lies: His lips move.

Your point is well taken, we conservatives can take some hope by distinguishing the man's message from his record.

The problem for us conservatives concerning Romney of course is that he has flip-flopped so many times on so many core issues that it is risky in the extreme to believe that he will not flip again once he obtains office with our support.

I believe his essential message is that he can fix the economy, the message, if you will, of the mechanic. I am not sure that people are listening to his position on immigration or taxes or his 59 point proposal the fix the economy, or on energy. As long as his positions are not so peculiar as to be remarkable, it is assumed without serious thought that he will behave reasonably.

But it is also true that in American politics the message cannot be separated from the man. That is how presidents get elected by the national voting block, especially the independents who are so decisive. That is probably why Truman defeated Dewey, Eisenhower defeated Stevenson, and Kennedy defeated Nixon. The people vote on the character of the man, or his charisma or some distillation of his essential character. I have often advocated that they should be far more mindful of his ideology but my pleas fall on stone deaf ears. We conservatives are far more likely to have a punch list of issues which a candidate must fulfill for our support. Independents, (forgive me) especially women, draw a subjective judgment of the man. Democrats are a mob whoring after the latest false Messiah.

So if the electorate sees Romney as a competent mechanic who can fix the economy and they see Obama as an ideologue, they will elect Romney. On the other hand if they see Romney as an opportunist who will cut and trim on every issue and they see Obama as likable, we know the result.

I suspect that we as conservatives will be moderately favorably surprised overall by Romney's decisions in office just as we were profoundly disappointed by many of the positions taken by George W. Bush in office.

>”The lesson [of Romney trying to speak as if he were a conservative] is that the conservative message does sell. Even when the sellers arent conservatives.”<

Frankly I didn’t pay much attention to what Romney was saying myself because he wasn’t anybody I was considering until it came down to him and Obama. I suppose he did do more of that than previously (hence the charges of flipflopping), and that did make it more difficult to label him a liberal. I don’t think voters really believed that he was more conservative than some of the others, though. So in choosing him they didn’t vote for conservatism itself.

I don’t know how much of what he said that sounds conservative he would really implement as President (probably not much), but I still support him. I think he’d be considerably better than Obama.