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To: Seizethecarp; NoLibZone; Jim Robinson; All
Obama loathes and wants to effectively replace the influence of all forms of religion with the power of the global socialist state...while the shameless chameleon Romney, whatever his shortcomings, does NOT!

The Master puppeteer is Satan. His primary political power will be THE Anti-Christ.

By way of parallel example, Romney is to the Mormon prophet what the Anti-Christ is to Satan. Puppet vs. Puppeteer.

This is where ignorance of Mormonism takes over in these religio-political threads. Because it makes absolutely ZERO difference here whatever Romney's personal machinations are! (Only the "prophet's" directives count!)

My Mormon ancestors go back a ways. I have more primary Lds documents than many perhaps even most Lds. I've read what they've spoken from the tabernacle pulpit; I've studied their leaders' writings.

If you have a certain control-freak @ the head of the Mormon church -- as their "prophet" -- then all bets are off are your forecasts.

We know...
...Joseph Smith was running for POTUS the year he died.
...That his ensuer, Brigham Young, was not only prophet but territorial governor who interfered in bringing Mormons to justice (i.e. Mountain Meadows Massacre).
...that 3rd "prophet" John Taylor eventually hated "the United Order" -- socialist/communist communities that his previous "prophets" put into place in communities like Orderville, Kanab, Brigham City, St. George, Bunkerville, Nevada, etc...they had 200 such communities planned...but became extinct by 1900.
...Lorenzo Snow, the 5th Mormon "prophet" 1898-1901, had even run one of these communist cities.

The 4th "prophet" before him, Wilford Woodruff, had the audacity along with Taylor in the 1880s to repeatedly rebuff the feds re: bigamy/polygamy. They thought their power trumped the govt.

There wasn't a Mormon "prophet" who was polygamy-free until 1945...one of those was 6th "prophet" Joseph F. Smith, who lied under oath about polygamous arrangements during the Senate Smoot hearings in the early 1900s.

This is the "Mormon cloth" of leadership from which also -- generations later -- 80-something yr old Lds "prophets" are emerging...

Do we want the free world in the hands of some potential 90-95 yo "prophet" who directs Romney to do whatever he wants?

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I wrote this in April 2009:

If Romney were to be elected, just how much advice would be coming from SLC? That in itself is a scary thought considering their desire for a return to LDS theocracy. But what have LDS leaders & authors themselves said? Here's just a small sample:

Here's what a journalist/spokesperson for the University of Utah said back in 1981:

“Mormons believe they have a divine commission to prepare the world for Christ's millennial reign in which they will serve as officers and administrators. The faithful Saint believes he is building the kingdom of God. This is what motivates the 30,000 full-time missionaries [note, this has almost doubled since 1981] to preach the gospel, and this is what keeps men in their eighties working at a pace that would pitch younger, less motivated men into their graves.” --University of Utah spokesperson Fred Esplin, “The Saints Go Marching On,” Utah Holiday, June 1981, p. 34.

LDS prophet Ezra Taft Benson himself also said in 1988: “Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time 'this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction' [The White Horse Prophesy] Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 1988, p. 619

LDS author Duane S. Crowther: “[T]here will be a complete change of government Washington, D.C. will cease to be the capital. The present national bureaucracy will have its end. The internal conflict will sweep away the current system of governments and will pave the way for the political kingdom of God and the millennial kingdom through which Jesus Christ will rule and reign...A new government will be established among the saints and that political kingdom of God will espouse and uphold the principles of constitutional government." Duane S. Crowther, Prophetic Warnings to Modern America, 1979, pp. 315-316

1,210 posted on 05/08/2012 8:56:08 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian
This is the "Mormon cloth" of leadership from which also -- generations later -- 80-something yr old Lds "prophets" are emerging... Do we want the free world in the hands of some potential 90-95 yo "prophet" who directs Romney to do whatever he wants?

With Romney it wont' be our congress or our representatives that will influence him or hold his feet to the fire...it will be the unseen LDS leadership. We can at least try and move congress....we have zip zero access to Romneys leaders or to influence them....they will have free reign with no accountability to anyone.

They have their own global governance ambitions, under the authority of their leaders, or at very least a huge part of, and Romney to bring that about if he wins....with the leadership of his organization/alias church overseeing him.

They don't understand the denial and deception is the whole of the Mormon Agenda....control and so called "benevolent dictatorship..but control none the less.

1,241 posted on 05/08/2012 11:08:11 AM PDT by caww
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