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To: IronJack

... those who helped make the world a better place were far more often chess players than football gorillas. Do you for an instant doubt the truth of that statement?”

Yes, I doubt the truth of that statement. The world has become a better place based on two types of individuals IMHO. The people gifted with intellect and the people gifted with athletic ability. (some people are gifted with both). For example, for every strategic brilliant General... you need the men with courage and physical athletic ability to carry out his plan and win a battle.

Your posts contain these quotes, “Get these ape-training programs out of our colleges”, “I don’t believe we should be training these... performers”, and “...Football gorillas”. I am afraid that you were the one who resorted to name calling, sir. You were the one who ridiculed college athletes and demeaned them by referring to them as animals and unintelligent. Frankly, you bore me. You attempt to impress others with your so called intellect. What you don’t see is that you are closed minded and jealous. Yes, jealous. Instead of seeing that people have different gifts and abilities, you demean those who aren’t just like you. Closed minded people are so transparent. For the record, I am not athletic. I never have been. However, I admire the work ethic and athletic ability that athletes obtain. (whether that is football, swimming, soccer, whatever...). Again, have a nice day.


100 posted on 05/06/2012 10:15:25 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
The world has become a better place based on two types of individuals IMHO. The people gifted with intellect and the people gifted with athletic ability. (some people are gifted with both).

I don't doubt that. And there are times and places for both. But a college is first and foremost an ACADEMIC institution, not a physical training camp, nor a foundry for forging fleshy war machines. Support football all you like; just don't do it in an environment where LEARNING is supposed to reign supreme.

For example, for every strategic brilliant General... you need the men with courage and physical athletic ability to carry out his plan and win a battle.

I agree. So train the generals in colleges and the ... athletes ... somewhere else. The two share very little. Why superimpose one on the other?

You were the one who ridiculed college athletes and demeaned them by referring to them as animals and unintelligent.

Which probably wasn't fair. In fact, some athletes are quite gifted intellectually. However, that doesn't bear at all on the reasoning behind putting football (and athletics) on college campuses.

Frankly, you bore me. You attempt to impress others with your so called intellect.

The boredom is probably the result of your own insecurity. And this is less about demonstrating my intellect than in soliciting a valid rebuttal to my assertion that football does not belong in a college environment.

What you don’t see is that you are closed minded and jealous. Yes, jealous. Instead of seeing that people have different gifts and abilities, you demean those who aren’t just like you.

Yawn. The classic retreat of a cornered "victim." I don't necessarily pretend to be an intellectual, nor have I ever said I was not athletic. You have assumed that because I question college athletics, I must be some bow-tied Melvin with a shoulder-high wedgie.

Closed minded people are so transparent.

Yes, you are.

I admire the work ethic and athletic ability that athletes obtain. (whether that is football, swimming, soccer, whatever...).

What "ethic" would that be? Let's ask Charles Barkley or Dennis Rodman or Joe Paterno or Michael Vick or the baseball Steroid Bunch or the New Orleans Saints ...

Yeah. Ethics. Like Bill Clinton had ethics.

College football is bought and paid for. Ethics went out the window a long time ago, along with all that other Andy Hardy nonsense about honor and fair play. Today it's about winning. Winning means money. And money rules everything else.

I'm done with this thread. You can have the last word if you'd like.

104 posted on 05/06/2012 2:20:37 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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