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To: MamaTexan
For the pg 1117 quote enter that pg number here...@Congressional Globe, Senate, 39th Congress, 1st Session

It starts at page 961.

282 posted on 05/07/2012 10:36:19 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; New Jersey Realist
For the pg 1117 quote enter that pg number here

Thank you kindly, philman. I actually tried backing up from the gif and tried to find the main search page to the Globe, but a techno wiz, I'm not.

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In further research, I found what 'Sharswood's Blackstone' is. It's a memoir titled 'a Life of the Author by George Sharswood'. In Two Volumes. (Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Co., 1893). Vol. 1 - Books I & II.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1275&Itemid=260

And while HIS definition said Blackstone believed a natural born was born in the dominion of the King, what Blackstone actually said was natural borns were born within the dominion of the crown, OR ALLEGIENCE TO THE KING.

CHAPTER X. - OF THE PEOPLE, WHETHER ALIENS, DENIZENS, OR NATIVES
The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects.1 Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance, of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it.

Big difference between the original Blackstone and Sharswood's 'interpretation'.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php&title=2140&search=%22natural+born%22&chapter=198671&layout=html#a_3147310

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I still can't see anything from a period that isn't distorted by someones interpretation of history say anything to change the orginal definition of natural born.

The country of the father is the country of the children.

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New Jersey Realist -

I've read the thread, and I understand your point of being concerned over the citizenship of your ancestors.

Take heart. I can't pinpoint it at the moment, but I do believe men who joined the military to fight for a country were naturalized by fact if not by law because they had proven their allegiance.

That being the case, their acts have naturalized them, and any of their children would be natural born.

I'll can look to see if I can find the specific part of Vattel that says it, if you like.

287 posted on 05/07/2012 11:36:46 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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