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To: New Jersey Realist
“Not interested in getting into each individual states laws and customs”

You should be. Some of the states following Independence chose to follow the French model and did not confer citizenship upon the child born in the state with alien parents. Consequently the child was not a citizen at birth or after birth without reaching the age of majority and naturalizing as a citizen of the state and thereby the United States. Likewise, the states which conferred state and thereby U.S. citizenship upon a child born in the state with alien parents did so by the authority of a public law which made the child an unnatural born U.S. Citizen treated as if they are a natural born citizen in the same manner as described in the 18th Century Nationality Acts. Whenever reading a source which uses the term, “natural born citizen,” you have to keep in mind the usage was imprecise to the extent of which it fails to mention that it includes unnatural born citizens such as aliens naturalized after birth in some cases, aliens made as if natural born at birth by authority of Royal decree or legislative statute, and the true natural born citizen child in the state jurisdiction with citizen parents. The key issue determining the natural born subject or citizen status is whether or not the child is born with an obligation for allegiance to more than the sovereign or polity of the place of birth.

222 posted on 05/06/2012 8:32:18 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Granted but the majority of the states were Jus Soli but once our republic was formed the Constitution rules, right? I mean, I’m not a history buff but I’ve read enough to be assured that when the framers said, “or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution” and since there is no one alive who fits that category now, that pretty much means they were grandfathered in and a new beginning arose. I’m not sure about that but I am assured of Jus Soli. I’m worn out now so perhaps this isn’t making sense.


234 posted on 05/06/2012 9:09:35 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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