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To: New Jersey Realist
Here are all of the quotes you gave so that the debate can be sen in context...

Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. @2212 (1869) (first column, lower left)

I can't seem to find your second quote "Rep. Bowen. The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 3. pg. 96 (1869)" in the Congressional Globe.
Here is @page 96 of The Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 40th Congress, 3rd Session
Perhaps your page number is wrong. Any help appreciated.

I did, however, find the quote attributed to one Attorney General Bates @Opinion of Attorney General Bates on citizenship (page 12, second paragraph)

Rep. Wilson. Cong. Globe, 39th Cong., lst Sess. @1117 (first column, 1/2 down)

Senator Morrill, Cong. Globe, 1st Sess. 39th Congress, pt. 1, pg. p. @570 (first column, 1/2 down)

Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. @575 (1872) (middle column bottom...starts in the middle of the next to last paragraph)

For anyone wishing to check the source see here... @Congressional Globe Debates and Proceedings, 1833-1873

161 posted on 05/05/2012 10:15:54 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MamaTexan

You might find the link to the “Opinion of Attorney General Bates on citizenship” above of interest.


163 posted on 05/05/2012 10:29:56 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Sorry, scratch that quote because of previous typo’s or something I cannot find it now. It is very difficult to find anything in the Globe because there is no search benefit. You can replace that one with the following quote from US V. Wong Kim:

“Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin’s Case, 7 Coke, 6a, ‘strong enough to make a natural subject, for, if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject’; and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, ‘If born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen…”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


174 posted on 05/05/2012 1:29:04 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: philman_36
Thanks for posting this. I found the links very useful, and was a nice neutral gesture.

It is apparent to me that the natural-born clause is not a definer of a class of citizenship, but an additional criterion added after passing the citizenship requirements. One can define citizenship in any way possible, but must still apply the natural-born test, as described by Founding Father Thomas Paine, afterwards.

-PJ

251 posted on 05/06/2012 2:41:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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