[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

You mean proposing ‘adjusting’ future entitlements 10 years in the future so that those Republicans proposing it will be safely retired, or voters memory of the act will, before anyone can claim it affected them?

I don't think the budget changes are supposed to wait 10 years before they begin. Here is a chart of Ryan's 2011 budget. Do you have a chart for the 2012 budget? In the chart, Ryan's deficits are purple (yes, the Ryan budget will borrow money, but not as much as the govt. is planning to do). The red bars are what would happen in a perfect world.

You raise some good questions:

1) If the Ryan budget, even if it works as advertised, will not balance the budget, is it worth losing votes to sucklings of the govt. teat (many through their own fault, but not all of them)? Is the best we can hope for a last minute "continuing resolution" that grants Obama only 90% of what he wants? Theoretically, a Ryan (house) bill would wrestle with a Reid (senate) bill, but they don't seem to do that in congress any more. Clinton's vetoes of Newt's bills in the 1990s are the stuff of legend for Dems.

2) Bearing in mind that the Gramm-Rudman bill failed to control spending, is there any hope that congress can behave itself in a 10 year period?

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Bearing in mind that the Gramm-Rudman bill failed to control spending, is there any hope that congress can behave itself in a 10 year period? “

No evidence of it.

I see a total collapse in 5-8 years....after that, who knows? Social Security will be means tested...God knows what else will happen. 20+ trillion debt....ouch

[sickoflibs]

RE :”You mean proposing ‘adjusting’ future entitlements 10 years in the future so that those Republicans proposing it will be safely retired, or voters memory of the act will, before anyone can claim it affected them?
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I don't think the budget changes are supposed to wait 10 years before they begin.”

I was specifically referencing his Medicare reform which was the big one and safely delayed for 10 years.

Medicare is the program that is bringing us down $$$ and Ryan and CO added a 10 year delay as a political trick trick which didn't make it sell anyway,

BTW : I still am paying those Medicare taxes, what for?