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To: kearnyirish2; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”I know part of ObamaCare’s funding was to come from cuts to MediCare; basically it was stealing from American senior citizens to provide healthcare to illegal aliens.
I don’t know why there wasn’t more of an uproar from the seniors when this was openly reported by Obama’s media.

There was, this was a big part of senior opposition to Obama-care in 2010 and seniors voting Republican that year to boot Dems out.

But it 2011 Republicans neutralized that advantage they had on the issue with the Ryan plan on medicare,which was for deficit reduction with some tax cuts.

One thing that pisses me off to no end is when both parties claim that the medicare ‘trust fund’ will keep medicare fully finded for another 5 to 10 years, when the ‘trust fund’ is simply IOUs from the government to itself which are only redeemed by floating more national debt US treasuries.

In other words medicare went broke during GWB term and SS broke at the start of 2009.

The reason why they lie about the nonexistent trust funds is so they can avoid confronting angry seniors on election day and claim that no-one is effected by reforms.

Today's seniors no more deserve today's medicare benefits than anyone forced to pay medicare taxes now and in the future (to go to those benefits now) do. The ponzi nature of the system doesnt change the morality of it.

It's theft!

18 posted on 05/04/2012 9:51:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

” The reason why they lie about the nonexistent trust funds is so they can avoid confronting angry seniors on election day and claim that no-one is effected by reforms.”

EXACTLY


20 posted on 05/04/2012 11:59:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; kearnyirish2; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy
There was, this was a big part of senior opposition to Obama-care in 2010 and seniors voting Republican that year to boot Dems out. But it 2011 Republicans neutralized that advantage they had on the issue with the Ryan plan on medicare,which was for deficit reduction with some tax cuts.

At the same time, we are going broke, and I don't know how to fix that without adjusting entitlements. Maybe the GOP should have not produced a budget, and then been more "flexible" after 2012?

23 posted on 05/04/2012 2:04:51 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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