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To: Jim Robinson
Marriage can be covered under the clause of fixing values of weights and measures as it is generally accepted that standardized legal definitions are an accepted form of measure. Preserving the legal definitions within contracts assures equal legal protection for all individuals across varying jurisdictions. Federalist 42 expands on the weights and measures clause to describe it as:..to prescribe the manner in which the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of each State shall be proved..

In other words, congress can and should preserve the legal definition of marriage in the same way they are charged with insuring that all legal standards are clearly defined and uniform.

10 posted on 05/03/2012 3:31:52 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Ok, thanks!


13 posted on 05/03/2012 3:38:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: mnehring

And I thought weights and measures applied to the bathroom scales, which may regulate marriage to some degree.


15 posted on 05/03/2012 3:42:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: mnehring; Jim Robinson
Mnehring is right about the federal government having the Constitutional right to get involved in marriage issues. Contracts are involved and a marriage or divorce in one state probably has to be honored in all states unless the Constitution is amended to provide for an exception.

Anyone who knows me knows I oppose homosexual marriage, and this probably has to be handled at the federal level because even one state allowing homosexual marriage can probably force every other state to accept it, under longstanding precedents.

The contracts clause is in Article I, Section 10, which reads as follows: “No State shall ... pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts...”

The alternative to considering marriage to be a contractual obligation covered by this clause would be chaos with people not knowing if their marriage performed in one state would be valid in another state to which they might move. Less than half a century ago, this became an issue when some more conservative states didn't want to recognize the “no fault divorce” granted by states with looser laws. The stricter states were forced to recognize divorces granted in more permissive states. Also, states which prohibited interracial marriages were first forced to recognize interracial marriages performed in other states and then forced to perform interracial marriages themselves.

This is not a new issue — there are multiple reasons why Utah could not be allowed to enter the Union before it outlawed polygamy, one of them being that every other state probably would have been forced to recognize polygamous marriages in Utah. Even apart from that extreme case, this came up in the early 1800s with questions about the legitimacy of marriages to first cousins or states having to decide whether to allow remarriage of people who had been divorced under the laws of a different jurisdiction where divorces were granted on grounds that other states refused to accept.

Personally I can see some wisdom in letting this get handled as a states’ rights issue, but I see no way to do so because of the contracts clause and court precedents relating to marriage that go back long before modern judicial activism. Much will depend on what the Supreme Court does, but I'm afraid this is probably going to end up being an “all or nothing” issue with homosexual marriage allowed in all states or no states.

47 posted on 05/03/2012 6:11:41 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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