[johngrace]

What about the spies knowing our codes? How about the Chinese coming near our subs? We are a more open society with known secrets stolen.

And what was that missile off of California?

What about exceptional allowed losses. You know that China wants to decrease its population. There are nutty people in charge of Russia and China. They are both bold lately since Obama has been in charge.

[Navy Patriot]

This is about Europe, Particularly Western Europe.

Both Russia and China have several bones to pick with Europe, and up through the Serbian Kosovo war they haven't been able to pick 'em because of US (NATO) backing and influence.

No more. That backing will end or Russia (and China) will extract a steep price from us, and Europe.

If Russia controls European security (and safety from terrorist Muslim states), you will see major Economic cooperation of Western Europe with Russia (and China) and near nil with petro terrorist mid east states and Muslim agitating populations.

From your point of view, Russia is promoting and backing Christianity over Islam, and I'm not sure that is crazy at all.