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College student locked away, forgotten in DEA holding cell for four days, no food, water or toilet
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 5/3/2012 | Jeff McDonald

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:06:17 AM PDT by Shane

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To: Lazamataz

You are correct. Yes it can. A person is in serious trouble at 72 hours without water and is on the knife edge of survival after that. Even if they don’t die, serious long-term effects can ensue.


101 posted on 05/03/2012 8:42:02 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You don’t care if a government abuses the constitutional rights of a fellow citizen?

It always starts with the “undesireables”—then it moves up to “respectable” citizens.

That could be you, one day.

But you may not be “forgotten” for four days. You may be “remembered” a month or two down the line.

Your crime?

You owned a gun.

You disagreed with Der Fuhrer Obama publicly.

You voted for the “wrong” politician.

You read a conservative book (”extremist literature”).

This isn’t about the kid doing drugs; this is about the government seeing what we, the American people, will tolerate being done to them without due process.


102 posted on 05/03/2012 8:42:32 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Nope. Sorry.

Just not good enough.

Summary executions all around.


103 posted on 05/03/2012 8:56:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What narrative? If the facts are not: Left in a cell for five days without food, water, and no charges. Then why the he’ll was he apologized to by the supervising DEA agent. What am I missing? He left in the cell with an “unknown” white powder?

These are the known facts and these facts are not disputed by the supervising agent.

So what narrative am I missing?

So in your world it’s cool to pick up citizens, imprison them without charges for five days without food and water?

Don’t get yourself invested in this one. This story is a real stinker for the gubment.


104 posted on 05/03/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; All
While it may be sensationalized, it is a truth that when all food and water is unavailable to a person he/she die quickly.
3 days or a day or three longer.
Elderly people that fail to protect their air way when eating, drinking, have two choices, ... a feeding “, put on their door, or chart, and it means no other source of hydration as well. IE Terri Shivo (sp?)

It is entirely true this young man may have been dehydrated to the point of near death.

Cut him some slack. He did not deserve this to happen and we know the offices of the government covers up everything they can. So it is good to bring this incident to the public’s attention. It is the way to get out any information as to the poor operations in some departments.

105 posted on 05/03/2012 8:58:59 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course not. I’m a professional and work on buildings all over the world.

We all know potheads are complete losers who never leave mommy’s basement and fill the holes in their brains with taco bell.


106 posted on 05/03/2012 9:01:04 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: azsportsterman

“You must lead a rough life; In my world, being deprived of food and water for four days is certainly torture, and being forced to drink your own urine is certainly denigrating. And I have been on both ends of military survival training, so I think I can speak from personal experience.”

Same here.

The problem here on my part, and freely admitted is I am trying to find the relevance when looking at people like Gilad Shalit and Daniel Pearl who were beaten within an inch of their lives, starved, deprived of water and in the case of Pearl, decapitated as what torture is.

This was depraved indifference on the part of the DEA and yes, justice for this aggregious crime against a citizen of the US should be handed out to the idiots who did this.


107 posted on 05/03/2012 9:01:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: mountainlion

40 days? Where in the world did you read 40 days?


108 posted on 05/03/2012 9:14:53 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Michael.SF.
“You answered your own question.”

Just how did I answer my own question? Bush is no longer president. Obama signed the most recent law. I disagree with the laws content. American citizens are entitled to due process. Either post something that makes sense or go away.

109 posted on 05/03/2012 9:20:49 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: 3rdcoastislander
Those thoughts occurred to me as well.
110 posted on 05/03/2012 9:25:26 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So a druggie buy some drugs at a flophouse, passes out, and gets swept up with the rest of the trash?

You can read right? He was a student buying drugs for personal consumption and the DEA wasn't even going to charge him with anything and then they forgot him in a cell for five days (they acknowledged it so its not a he-said-she-said thing.) You don't have to be outraged but this is a constitutional violation of the 8th and 10th amendments.

Though I imagine if he had been accidentally shot by the DEA, you would have said exactly the same. You know, let the Federal Govt. abuse its powers as much it wants as long as they agree with us right?
111 posted on 05/03/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by kroll
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To: A Strict Constructionist
3. You don’t believe in the Constitution?

Well duh. The Constitution is the last word on all issues we agree on. When we don't its just a random jumble of letters! Death to the "junkies"!
\sarc
112 posted on 05/03/2012 9:35:58 AM PDT by kroll
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To: geologist

“So it is good to bring this incident to the public’s attention. It is the way to get out any information as to the poor operations in some departments. “

I agree. I just didn’t like the way the media presented this.


113 posted on 05/03/2012 9:46:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree with you.


114 posted on 05/03/2012 9:54:01 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Shane

Why did we have to pass a Constitutional Amendmend to ban alcohol, but some executive orders and some bills through congress and Presto Bingo there is an out and out war on drugs that was never oficcially declared an actual “War”.

Because since the early 1900’s the constitution has been watered down so much it is almost meaningless....

They had to use a constiutional amendment BECAUSE they simply couldn’t have passed a bill through congress and got the president’s signature BECAUSE the “War on Drugs” is inherently Un-constitutional as it is an abuse of federal power in relation to the average citizen.

It was only through the twisted liberal logic of a “welfare state” that they were able to justify the “War on Drugs” for the “Good of Society” since the progessive playbook was to make Government “responsible” for the “good of society”.


115 posted on 05/03/2012 10:15:26 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Also forgot to mention that I think that if states want to ban drugs in the same way they have “dry counties” and “dry states” then by all means it is up to the states to do so.


116 posted on 05/03/2012 10:17:00 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Shane
Not condoning having been forgotten or whatever in a cell, but try this scenario:

Broken glass and meth came from him shoving his stash and his glass pipe in bum, then trying to eat the evidence later. Sounds a lot more plausible than some white powdery substance "hanging out" in a cell, and accidently ingesting broken glass.

117 posted on 05/03/2012 11:09:03 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why don’t you feel outraged? Because there’s something wrong with you ? Something broken inside?

Probably...


118 posted on 05/03/2012 12:29:32 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: frithguild
$500,000 is about right

That's not enough.

119 posted on 05/03/2012 12:38:45 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: rawhide

When I heard of this case there was only one question that neede to be asked in court. How much does he want? Give him a blank cheque.


120 posted on 05/03/2012 12:39:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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