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To: betty boop; P-Marlowe; xzins; NFHale; Yashcheritsiy; reaganaut; Jim Robinson; LS; Bigun; ...
Forgive me for saying so, dear P-Marlowe, but it is my belief that God does not judge and punish us NOW, in "this" world. Punishment for our sins according to our just desserts is imposed on us on Judgment Day, when Christ comes again, this next time brandishing a bloody sword — not before.

If you don't believe that God punishes countries and nations that turn their backs on him, then you must also not believe that he gave our founders this country and our liberty as a reward for our faithfulness and to be stewards of our nation as an instrument in God's plan.

Betty, God does reward us for our faithfulness and he punishes us for our faithlessness NOW, today, while we are on the earth. There are countless verses in the Bible where God calls upon his people to be faithful and when they are not he brings destruction down upon them.

Europe has long ago abandoned God for humanism. WWII was the classic example of what happens to countries that turn from God. America remained faithful to God up until just after WWII and when America began loosing it's faith in God and our institutions began to become more and more secular.

America has the blood of well over 50,000,000 babies on its account. God does not look kindly upon a nation that engages in child sacrifice and I view the abortion holocaust as nothing less than Human Sacrifice.

If you don't think that what is happening right now to our nation is NOT a judgment from God upon our nation, then you do not believe that God is just. He will punish us individually for our sins in eternity, but he judges the nations and when he pronounces judgment on a nation, then that nation is punished now. Nations shall not stand before God at the judgment seat at the end of days. Nations will be dealt with here and now.

448 posted on 05/04/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; NFHale; Yashcheritsiy; reaganaut; Jim Robinson; LS; Bigun; Alamo-Girl; ...
God is just. Men aren't. As a rule.

I would ask you to consider that profound difference.

But if God has judged this nation, and will punish us by inflicting another four years of Obama on us (which would be the death-stroke of our nation under God), then there's nothing more for me to do, and I might just as well curl up and die and await my judgment on Judgment Day.

Elections would be pointless under that scenario.

So why bother? Everybody, just stay home on November 6th.

Your God-given liberty means nothing, after all....

450 posted on 05/04/2012 3:40:09 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: P-Marlowe
The two worst presidents of my life time were both born again Christians, Bush II and Jimminy Cricket Carter. I see nothing of the love of Christ and God in your post. I see hatred, ignorance and irrelevence. Please go away!
455 posted on 05/04/2012 4:07:53 PM PDT by marylovesthelions
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