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To: Jeff Head; Colofornian

And your Church Handbook of Instructions states otherwise.

More double speak from that cult. Not surprised, the members are so spoonfed that they often fail to realize the internal inconsistencies.

And no one ever said the Government should make the call. Strawman fail.

Give me a source for your claim of 99% of the time that is the counsel. You cannot, because the counselor cannot discuss it outside of the family. You are pulling stats out of your...hat.


393 posted on 05/04/2012 7:16:26 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut
In my experience 99% of the time that has been the council. Pretty easy to understand.

Here's the link to the official Church site on abortion:

LDS Church Position on Abotion - Click on the additional info Link too

Read it yourself, I copied it in the above post for you to see.

That's the official position. I have a copy of the Handbook and it does not disagree in the least with this.

You can believe some kind of dark conspiracy that we are lieing on the official site and in the handbook I have...or that I am lieing (I am not), if you please. That's your decision. I am simply posting the accurate position of the Church.

394 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: reaganaut
FYI, since it has also been discussed, here is the official Church position on Homosexuality, from LDS.org:

Homosexulaity (Gays and Lesbians)

“People inquire about our position on those who consider themselves so-called gays and lesbians. My response is that we love them as sons and daughters of God. They may have certain inclinations which are powerful and which may be difficult to control. Most people have inclinations of one kind or another at various times. If they do not act upon these inclinations, then they can go forward as do all other members of the Church. If they violate the law of chastity and the moral standards of the Church, then they are subject to the discipline of the Church, just as others are” (Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign , Nov. 1998, 71).

Additional Information

“We want to help these people, to strengthen them, to assist them with their problems and to help them with their difficulties. But we cannot stand idle if they indulge in immoral activity, if they try to uphold and defend and live in a so-called same-sex marriage situation. To permit such would be to make light of the very serious and sacred foundation of God-sanctioned marriage and its very purpose, the rearing of families” (Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign , Nov. 1998, 71).

And here's the link to that page:

LDS CHurch position on Homosexuality

Hope that helps.

396 posted on 05/04/2012 7:49:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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