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Employers could save billions by dropping workers from health plans, report shows
foxnews.com ^ | 5/1/12 | Jim Angle

Posted on 05/01/2012 11:42:07 AM PDT by ColdOne

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1 posted on 05/01/2012 11:42:12 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Killing them will save even more !


2 posted on 05/01/2012 11:44:30 AM PDT by traumer
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To: ColdOne

We knew that from the get go.

If the “fine” was less than the policy then it makes business sense to drop the plan and pay the “fine”.

The problem has always been once Obamacare kicked in and knocked out all the private insurance plans they could then kick the fine all the way to the moon.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 11:45:52 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ColdOne

But they wouldn’t do that....


4 posted on 05/01/2012 11:49:37 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: ColdOne

A Big thank you to all the RINOs in the Senate who voted this out of committee and you voted for cloture.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 11:49:41 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: ColdOne

I have to say it:

Unexpected!


6 posted on 05/01/2012 11:49:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: ColdOne

Single payer was, and is, the goal of Obamacare. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence recognized this.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 11:50:04 AM PDT by Signalman
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” Single payer was, and is, the goal of Obamacare. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence recognized this.”

Don’t talk about an ounce of intelligence these days : )


8 posted on 05/01/2012 11:56:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ColdOne

That would explain my wife’s plan which is requiring us to provide a government issued marriage license(we’ve been married 30 years), a copy of a mortgage statement(or lease) showing both husband and wife, a copy of a bank statement showing both husband and wife, a copy of our 2010 tax return, state issued birth certificates for all of our dependants. We had fifteen days to provide all of that or be dropped from coverage. All children were born in different states. Who the heck has their marriage license of 30 years ago? Why the FU$% do I need to send them a copy of our 1040?


9 posted on 05/01/2012 11:58:58 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: ColdOne

As bad as my current “health” plan is that’s provided by my employer they may as well do so. It probably isn’t much worse (yeah, it’s THAT bad)


10 posted on 05/01/2012 11:59:37 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: ColdOne

***...contrary to the claims of its authors,...***

They lied? Imagine that...


11 posted on 05/01/2012 12:01:41 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Forget the GOP and go with the Constitution Party, because the status quo's no longer the way to go.)
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To: Signalman
workers would get generous federal subsidies -- which only phase out at about $88,000 income.

$88k isn't that much money these days. Take that family that probably pays between $300-$600 a month for the employee portion of premiums and then tell them they have to pay $1200-1500 a month.

Bye Bye middle class.

12 posted on 05/01/2012 12:01:50 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ColdOne

It was obvious when this monstrosity was passed that this was the plan.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 12:02:27 PM PDT by mojito
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That’s a whole lot of official documentation to obtain on short notice. And a heckuva lot more than the current occupant of the white house ever produced!


14 posted on 05/01/2012 12:04:53 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: ColdOne

Small businesses in many places have already been priced out of the insurance market for a long time. It will soon be big businesses that are priced out.

This would have happened with or without Obamacare

We already have single payer in Medicare/Medicaid for half of all medical care.

Employer-paid medical, like defined benefit pensions will be increasingly scarce.

Government could simply expand medicare to include everyone that wants it and could accomplish most of what Obamacare does. That’s probably how it will happen.

Folks that are complaining about socialized medicine today are about 50 years late in doing so.


15 posted on 05/01/2012 12:10:22 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ColdOne

duh

and once everyone is at the govt ‘mercy’... then those deemed ‘unfit’ or ‘less productive for society’ will have a tough time receiving any care

even if you have money... there won’t be any (legitimate) medical types to help you

nothing new here. the same thing has been played out numerous times in many other countries... all with the same results (tho the exact number of dead various, it’s always in the millions)

good times... /progressive-loathing-sarcasm


16 posted on 05/01/2012 12:12:01 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ColdOne

That is a key part of the Obama goal - to move everyone to government health care, to be the sole source of medical care.

Once the government is the sole source of medical care they will weild it like a club over our heads.

Who will vote against elected government officials who are the same people writing the rules dictating who gets medical care and medicines and who does not?

How many will support a candidate who wants to cut the government size and budget when the government warns that any cuts will affect their medical care?


17 posted on 05/01/2012 12:12:31 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Watch...
if this comes to pass, the left will deride the businesses as “greedy” for dropping the coverage, even though they were forced to.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 12:14:24 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ColdOne
We've known for at least 4 years that the whole boondoggle was designed to give us Single Payer via (as Cass Sunstein says) "Nudging" --- a combination of incentives, fines, regulations, mandates, freebies and penalties. It's not a "perverse" incentive if that was the whole idea to begin with.

And that is The Plan.

What can we do, except to pray that the USSC will strike the whole damn thing down?

19 posted on 05/01/2012 12:19:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If you think healthcare is expensive now, you should see what it costs when it's free. PJ O'Rourke)
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That sounds like a huge ordeal, and likely is overkill. But sounds like the plan is trying to weed out those who are really eligible, and to keep people from listing friends, live-ins, and assorted fringe relatives as dependents under the coverage, with no proof of a legitimate relationship. Seems like they could have gone about it in a different way, but perhaps the motive was legitimate.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 12:22:39 PM PDT by NEMDF
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