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To: Tublecane
...if it establishes their status it applies to them.
It's applicable on the child. It applies to the alien parents.

Yes, that’s because the law is about the driver.
Just like the law in question is about the parents!

In other words...if the alien parent doesn't want the child to have U.S citizenship then don't let it be born here.

You just said they’re not citizens until they’re born. Being born citizens, as they are, their citizenship comes simultaneously with their birth.
The child has no control over where it's born. The parent does!

How obtuse can you get?!

248 posted on 05/01/2012 5:42:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

“It’s applicable on the child. It applies to the alien parents.”

I still don’t understand the difference. I also don’t understand, way back when this all started, you insisted on saying the law only applies to aliens when clearly it is “applicable upon” citizen children. Couldn’t you have mentioned it was applicable upon citizens from the start and saved us a lot of trouble?

“Just like the law in question is about the parents!”

It’s about the parents insofar as it’s about their children. It’s about the children citizens, as you’ve admitted it establishes their citizenship status and is “applicable upon” them.

“In other words...if the alien parent doesn’t want the child to have U.S citizenship then don’t let it be born here.”

Also, if the child is born here it will have citizenship status for as long as it doesn’t renounce it. Which kinda sorta almost maybe...no, wait, definitely means it applies to the children.

“The child has no control over where it’s born. The parent does!”

So what? No natural born citizens have control over where they’re born. That doesn’t mean laws controlling their status don’t apply to them.

“How obtuse can you get?!”

Not as obtuse as thinking that means the law doesn’t apply to them. Your thinking the law applies only to parents because they’re the only ones who can do anything about it before the child is born is the epitome of obtuseness.


260 posted on 05/01/2012 6:13:27 PM PDT by Tublecane
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