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To: GregNH
Lets peel this code back.

At the highest level USC 8 has the following title

Title 8 - Aliens and Nationality

Is not this section of the about ALIENS and only ALIENS?

Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION and Nationality

So is this section not about those that are considered immigrants and thus naturalized citizens?

Chapter 12, Subchapter III - Nationality and NATURALIZATION

This IS about NATURALIZATION! Question above answered!

Part I - Nationality at Birth and COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION

This is further defining a citizen who is citizen at birth through NATURALIZATION.

USC 8 1401 - National and citizens AT birth

The word natural appears no where in this section. Why? This entire section and all the titles of the sections leading to it deal with NATURALIZATION.

As a natural born citizen I and millions of others are not in any subject to this code that is about NATURALIZATION.

Just as I and millions upon millions of other natural born citizens do not this code to ascertain our citizenship we also do not need the 14th Amendment to grant or validate our natural born citizenship status.

It is very simple. If you need an section of positive (man made) law, and 1401 is just that to validate your status - YOU ARE NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Mr. Baier is 100% and completely in correct in his analysis that uses laws on immigration and naturalization and applies SOLELY to NATURALIZED citizens to indicate to me and millions and millions of others that THIS law is where our citizenship is derived. I take this as a direct attack on any and all citizens whose source of citizenship is by natural law and not some 1401 code buried deep in our IMMIGRATION and NATURALIZATION laws.

We must ask ourselves this. If 1401 was repealed and repealed retroactively tomorrow would we who are truely natural born citizen STILL be citizens. The is obviously and without a doubt YES, WE WOULD! So this fact nullifies Mr. Baier's dribble.

177 posted on 05/01/2012 3:06:16 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6

“Is not this section of the about ALIENS and only ALIENS?”

No. Just by its title it is also about “nationality,” and the nationality of children born to aliens yet possessing certain qualities is the U.S.


203 posted on 05/01/2012 4:09:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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