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To: philman_36

“No, it doesn’t! It tells the parent (or parents), who are aliens, as well as all of the other people of America, that the child is now a citizen through naturalization and they are afforded all of the protections that every other citizen has.”

You have a unique legal mind, I’ll admit. I supposed you’d say that the law against murder doesn’t apply to murderers. It only tells everyone that the murderers are murderers and puts the murderers in jail to show everyone that murderers end up in jail. The people the law is about, and the ones who have things happen to them because of it, are somehow not the ones the law applies to.

The requirements making the children of aliens citizens through positive law, as you insist, do not apply to the children themselves. The law only tells everyone else but the child what the child is, and ensurea that the child retains its status throughout its life (unless it takes unilateral action to renounce that status, as all of us can). Yet somehow the law never touches the child. It hovers over them, like a cloud of smoke invisible to them but visible to everyone else.

See, I tried to understand, but I can’t carry it any further. It’s making me delirious.


176 posted on 05/01/2012 3:03:48 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
You have a unique legal mind, I’ll admit. I supposed you’d say that the law against murder doesn’t apply to murderers.
Using that analogy and this conversation you must conclude that the murderer is the victim and the victim should be incarcerated.
194 posted on 05/01/2012 3:45:57 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Tublecane
The requirements making the children of aliens citizens through positive law, as you insist, do not apply to the children themselves.
Nice twist, bad gambit. The law is "applicable upon" the children. It only "applies to" alien parents.
195 posted on 05/01/2012 3:48:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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