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Did I ever say the child was an alien? (specific reply, please)
Yes. In #4, you wrote, "8 U.S. Code is titled 'Aliens and Nationality'....You have to be an Alien first for anything therein to apply."

Where in reply 4 did I say the child was an alien?
Here it is in its entirety...

I used to respect the man. If he's too stupid to understand that 8 U.S. Code is titled "Aliens and Nationality" then there is no helping him.
You have to be an Alien first for anything therein to apply.

Where did I call the child an alien?

The section under discussion applies to children who are born a citizen.
The section under discussion applies to children who are born to aliens.
What great lengths you went to in misconstruing that.

Therefore, it seemed that you must think that somehow a child born a citizen--someone to whom § 1401 applies--is "an Alien first."

Ah, "it seemed" a certain way. Thanks for clarifying that.

You're arguing like a 12-year-old who's just discovered how clever he (thinks he) is.

Where in reply 4 did I say the child was an alien?

You said 8 USC only applied to someone who was an alien first.

8 USC § 1401 begins, "The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth."

It doesn't say "children of the following," just "the following." That is, the people who are citizens at birth. That is, children (unless you're going to argue that "at birth" doesn't necessarily imply "child"--I wouldn't put it past you at this point).

So if you say USC 8 only applies to people who are aliens first, and it applies to newborns, then you must be claiming that those newborns are aliens first. Even if you didn't say so in so many words, because I think then even you might realize the absurdity of your position.

As it is, I think the reply you're looking for is "I misspoke." Or maybe just "Oops."