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To: Reddy
Just wondering... does England have something like the 2nd Amendment codified into whatever their equivalent is of our constitution?

Unfortunately no.

The police where well aware of the mental instability of both ,Ryan and Hamilton, and chose to do nothing about the two lunatics. It was the excuse the idiots where looking for. The mass hysteria that followed was wiped up by a useful Idiot on Talk radio. The ownership of almost any Gun is still permitted, as long as it is converted to a carbine, licensed and kept locked away. [s]The strange thing is how gun and knife crime spiralled almost instantly after the ban, considering that concealed carry was already illegal in a public place.[/s]

9 posted on 04/30/2012 9:45:43 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: moose07

The English Bill of Rights of 1688 goes something like this...

“...That the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace, unless it be with consent of Parliament, is against law;

That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;....”

This law was passed by Parliament to reign in the powers of the King and established civilian arms and the national army as a perogative of Parliament, not the King.

Why? The House of Stuart (a couple of Charles and a James here and there over the previous 50 years) had the habit of disarming Protestants and showed strong preference against them being officers in the militia or army. After the Protestant Parliament chased James II out and brought in Dutchman William of Orange with his Scottish wife Mary...sister of James II....they sought to tie him down with the 1688 Act. It worked....by and large the Monarchy quickly slid into the current “theme park” attraction they are today.

Before 1688, the right to arms (proper to one’s station in society of course) had been considered the natural right of an Englishman in the “common law” for over 1,000 years since the times of the Saxon militia and fyrdman (free man) system....itself the outgrowth of the Germanic warrior based society where all arms bearing males had relatively equal say in governance. Google “althingi” and see how it worked more recently for the Norse.

The English can’t have arms now because once, just once, they waited until it was too late to use them. They slid down the “be reasonable” slippery slope to serfdom.

First handguns. Then nasty old semi-auto rifles. Then then finally even the old doubles. Now even a box cutter is considered a deadly weapon (sound familiar)...and as the author notes, the weapons were easy to take because the Masterclass had already established that “self defense” was no justification for any weapon.

Stand fast and don’t make the same mistake here.


26 posted on 04/30/2012 10:28:38 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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