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To: rxsid

I did a thorough word search of the U.S. Constitution and every amendment and not once did the word “parent” or “parents” appear. I did note that Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 states:

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

No mention of parents. There are two kinds of citizens in this country. Natural born (which means in common usage “of the soil”) and those made citizens by other powers, i.e., naturalized. To read anything else into this is to express an opinion, not a fact.

How would one know the citizenship of a parent anyway? What a birth certificate states for father may or may not be true for starters. I’d say a very large percentage of the population are bastards., i.e., born out of wedlock, etc., a product of a sperm bank, adopted, etc. I could go on but you get the picture. What proof is there that our parents are who they say they are? The only sure thing is that a hospital issues the proof that YOU were born there. That’s it!


64 posted on 04/27/2012 12:28:57 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Most things in the Constitution are not defined.

Why would you disregard what many SCOTUS justices have already stated, and what the House of Reps defined back in the 1860's?

Did they have no clue as to what the founders and framers meant?

The only thing that hasn't happened, specifically, is deciding if someone born with foreign allegiance owed can be President...because no such case has been heard and decided by SCOTUS.
The definition, however, is found in numerous other SCOTUS cases concerning citizenship.

If simply being born in the country were enough to be a natural born citizen, you must then admit and agree that 1) anchor baby's are POTUS eligible as is the current Dauphine of France.

Both notions would have been offensive to the framers and those that ratified the Constitution. It should also be offensive to sensible people of today.

FWIW, my oldest son is a naturalized Citizen, my middle son is a natural born Citizen and a younger daughter who is a Citizen by statue/14th Amendment.

66 posted on 04/27/2012 12:49:23 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: New Jersey Realist
No mention of parents.

No enveitro mentioned either because most people knew how babies were made, the old fashioned way.

85 posted on 04/27/2012 3:10:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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