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To: SoFloFreeper

Le Pen is *not* a right-winger, at least not in any way we Freepers would like to be associated with. She and her father are socialists. They’re just nationalist socialists. You know what you call a nationalist socialist, don’t you?

France does have an immigrant problem, in that their immigrants aren’t moving to France because they love France, but because they want to destroy France, and remake it in their Islamofascist image. But fighting a fascist death cult with nationalist socialism isn’t the answer. Sarkozy’s answer (restrict immigration, insist on inculturation of immigrants, liberalize France’s oppressive economic structures) is the better way.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 6:32:47 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I was unaware....she is anti-capitalist? From what I read, she wanted secure borders....thanks for the education. :)


8 posted on 04/24/2012 6:53:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: dangus
"their immigrants aren’t moving to France because they love France, but because they want to destroy France, and remake it in their Islamofascist image."

Your telling me, my Wife’s family immigrated to France to find a better and peaceful life. But sadly they brought their Muslim Contempt for French Culture with them and have created in France very thing they were Fleeing the West Bank.

Le Pen is the Ron Paul of France, she doesn't sound so bad at first, but then the Kookiness starts to come out.

Deep down her and her father have a very disturbing Anti-Semitic streak.

10 posted on 04/24/2012 7:02:59 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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Read up up on this. Marine distances herself from these. What is “mainstream” in France we think of as socialism. What is “far right” in France we think of as free markets.

Any free market capitalist who is a strong nationalist (anti-European union, anti-globalist) in France is branded as a raving “far-right” loon.

I think as time goes on we see racism and anti-semitism being called out for what it is. Where older generations have tolerated it more, I think most conservatives nowadays are distancing themselves from those who claim to be “conservative” but continue to harbor racist sentiment.

Whenever I read about the details of FN and other right-wing parties in France, and I get beyond the labels thrown at them by liberal/socialist commentators, I see this bearing out to be true.

The big bureaucratic state machinery paints everyone who opposes it with the broad brush of nazism. To anyone who is truly conservative in the American sense, any racial prejudices are contradictory to their most fundamental values. IMHO, there are many Europeans you would be very surprised to find out how much you agree with their perspective. Look at the Gaullists; being very opposed to having foreign troops on French soil not under French command. Well, well, well, how would an American feel about foreign troops on our soil not under American command ? IMHO, if America exclusively and extensively worked with conservatives in every nation and helped a shift towards national sovereignty and responsibility for all nations, we’d be doing much better for America.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 7:48:13 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: dangus
Yeah, perhaps, but they have nice graphics that some day might be applicable to the situation in the USA:


14 posted on 04/24/2012 7:49:56 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Study closely socialist Hugo Chavez' usage of 'popular masses' in the streets to thwart 1992 coup)
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To: dangus

I think it’s like this. In the U.S. it’s mostly groups opposing traditional values that want to give away other peoples money. In France you have the combination of supporting traditional values plus wanting to give away other peoples money. What’s not to like?


22 posted on 04/24/2012 10:34:44 AM PDT by conejo99
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