Read post 139.
Then read post 139.
Then re -read post 139 and self apply.
Thanks for playing.
As for Post 139, I note this: "Matalins droning on about how voters should try and search out only virtuous people to vote for is incredibly naive, it is incredibly boring and cumbersome and very preachy and almost elitist. What we need to do first is to limit government which does not require us being able to divine who is and who is not virtuous and who will and who will not stay virtuous."
Could we agree that the Founders quoted throughout this thread must have believed that the kind of "virtue" they described is a prerequisite for even the limiting of the government? Could we not submit the current President's "We Can't Wait" strategy described in another thread today as evidence of their wisdom and foresight?
When we elect officials who are determined to ignore "the People's" limits, as specified in their Constitution, then liberty is threatened. America's Founders knew that "parchment barriers" (written constitutional limits) would be insufficient, if the elected officials did not possess "virtue" and honor for those written limitations.
You have performed a valuable service by raising this as a discussion point. All of us here are going after the same prize, I believe--restoring America's greatness, and without virtuous leaders who respect our Constitution's limits on their power, we may not be able to achieve our purpose.