Unless it's one like this:
Which is similar, but better, than the one I have on mine, which originally came with the pistol grip only, but I never fired it that way, and never will.
That one is for an 870.
Posted on 04/22/2012 9:27:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
The gun manufacturing company Remington is standing strong against NBC, which has been going after the manufacturer for what it deems a flaw that allows the gun to be fired without the trigger being pulled. Despite the fact that Remington and the plaintiff came to an agreement, NBC kept on pressing and indicated Remington has been hiding the truth for years.
Remington's statement is a strong response to what it indicates is much more than a concern about gun safety:
"NBC continues to attack Remington and the firearms industry through sensational and factually inaccurate reporting. On April 11, 2012, Brian Williams again demonstrated NBC’s anti-gun agenda with the claim that the Model 870, Model 1100 and other Remington firearms have a design flaw. That claim is demonstrably false and Remington stands fully behind the safety and reliability of the most popular shotguns in the world. It wasn’t enough for NBC to attack over 20 million Remington firearms; they also called the Second Amendment into question by suggesting that there is a need for increased government regulation of firearms. Model 870 and 1100 owners know the truth – these shotguns are used extensively under the most demanding conditions. Tens of billions of rounds have been fired through these firearms, which are valued for their performance and durability by millions of hunters, shooters, law enforcement and military personnel who have relied on Remington. As the basis for its attacks, NBC continues to rely upon paid “experts” who have been repeatedly hired by plaintiff’s attorneys to testify against Remington and at least 16 other firearms manufacturers. The facts show that the Model 870 and 1100 are two of the most reliable shotguns ever produced – only one lawsuit has been filed in the last seven years and no litigation is pending against the trigger mechanisms of these firearms. Deceptively editing and ignoring readily available documents and video evidence to drive NBC’s agenda is an all too familiar tactic. Remington stands by the reliability and safety of its firearms and will fully respond to NBC’s attempt to disparage these iconic American products."
If you want to watch the NBC pieces, there are several videos here, and have Remington's full responses by checking out respectremington.tv.
NBC's integrity in this matter, according to the NRA-ILA, isn't spotless, either. They document why viewers should think twice about trusting NBC on this here.
Shorter ones are handier in close quarters, and are lighter. That's why my "serious social purposes" shotgun, (Not an 870, which I could not afford at the time) has a 18.5" barrel. Sure I give up two rounds of magazine capacity, but 6 should be enough, and if not, I know how to reload it.
Unless it's one like this:
Which is similar, but better, than the one I have on mine, which originally came with the pistol grip only, but I never fired it that way, and never will.
That one is for an 870.
Yes that is a good design that wont break your wrist!
Yes that is a good design that wont break your wrist!
That would make a fantastic bumper sticker!!!:)
I Want One! Badly. I thought I might not want to shoot it, but it actually weighs about 15% more than my current defensive shotgun, so felt recoil should be less. Over twice as many rounds, and will fire the short (1 3/4") shells, giving you more rounds yet. KelTec site says it will hold 6 3" rounds in each tube, meaning you could put in 10 1 3/4" rounds in each tube, for a total of 21(although the manual says to make the short rounds function feed reliably) but 14 + 1 of 2 3/4" would be plenty.. Man would that make Fienstien and Schummer swoon. :)
They corrected the safety button quite a few years ago but it was a really bad problem for a while.
While I was in grad school back in the late 80s I would work at a gun shop during Christmas vacation. That dealer kept a large stock of Mossberg safety buttons on hand. The replacements were also of plastic but had much more plastic on each side of the screw which attached it to the gun.
They may have replaced it with steel by now but I have no idea. Looking at the original ones, the plastic on each side of the screw was so thin that it was obviously defective, not sure how it ever got on the gun to start with.
Yep, eventually anyway. It has 18.5" barrel and is 26.1” long, both just above the legal minimums (18" and 26" respectively) in the National Firearms act.
All you need is around $750. (MSRP is $800)
That's how I was taught. The idea that the clack-clack of pumping the shotgun will cause the perp to freeze is a bad assumption. It may just as easily cause him to start firing wildly in the general direction of the sound.
All the JC Higgens shotguns I've seen were made by High Standard. The only Sears firearm that Winchester made was the model 54, a lever action rifle. Savage/Stevens made most Wards shotguns, Winchester apparently didn't make any of those either.
I had a 20 ga JC Higgens, and my Dad had a 12 gauge. They were both High Standards and I've handled the equivalent High Standard Models.
Wasn’t it NBC that staged the GM pickups with “exploding” fuel tanks expose? The public needs reminding exactly what kind of “news” organization is putting this out. Not like our illustrious news media would lie about the story, would they?
The grand jury returned a "no bill", so I guess he went on with his life. In 2009,, around 2 years after the shooting and a year after he was cleared by the Grand Jury, he appeared at a Tea Party Rally with Glenn Beck and Ted Nugent at the Alamo.
You can listen to the 911 call.
If the ejector breaks, and it's happened to me twice (once in the service and once as a civilian), the receiver has to go back to Remington for them to install a new one. Remington will replace the ejector either free or for a nominal charge. This is the only “flaw” with the 870 design. Otherwise, it's about as “human-proof” as you can get with a firearm.
My Nephew had a Sears shotgun made by Winchester. It was identical to the model 1300 except the impressed checkering had a different pattern.
I don’t remember if it was marked J.C. Higgins or not. It was actually a pretty good looking gun with a very high quality blueing. I never liked impressed checkering but other than that it was nice.
Ditto the ouch.
“Did NBC use a model rocket motor to cause the shotgun to fire?”
I remember that gas tank fire story. Why that didn’t put NBC News out of business permanently boggles the mind.
From Wikipedia
Controversis General Motors v. NBC Dateline NBC aired an investigative report on Tuesday, November 17, 1992, titled “Waiting to Explode”. The 60 minute program was about General Motors pickup trucks allegedly exploding upon impact during accidents due to the poor design of fuel tanks. Dateline's film showed a sample of a low speed accident with the fuel tank exploding. In reality, Dateline NBC producers had rigged the truck’s fuel tank with remotely controlled model rocket engines to initiate the explosion. The program did not disclose the fact that the accident was staged. GM investigators studied the film, and discovered that smoke actually came out of the fuel tank six frames before impact. GM subsequently filed an anti-defamation/libel lawsuit against NBC after conducting an extensive investigation. On Monday, February 8, 1993, GM conducted a highly publicized point-by-point rebuttal in the Product Exhibit Hall of the General Motors Building in Detroit that lasted nearly two hours after announcing the lawsuit.[6] The lawsuit was settled the same week by NBC, and Jane Pauley read a 3 minute 30 second on-air apology to viewers.
I was yooung and dumb. Shoulda called the cops - they might have found usable DNA...
Well, they are made in Texas!
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