Rodguy11
The Republicans under G.W. Bush had BOTH the House and the Senate - The RINOS sided with their socialist best friends and Never cut any Government program. During Bush’s first term, when he briefly talked about doing something with Social Security no one in the House or Senate stepped up to the challenge. Aside from Netw’s brief effort at G’ment reduction during 1994/1995, what can you point to in the Republican history that gives you hope that thare will be anything other than more Socialism? A hope & wish sandwich will not get you far. - “Either way we should take both Houses and if we do, we simply defund it if its still there.”
DanZ
The Reps barely had majorities and the Dems took over complete control of Congress in January 2007, i.e, for the last two years of Bush's term. And don't forget the Jeffords defection that essentially made the Senate 50-50 for the 107th Congress. The biggest Rep controlled Congress was the 109th (2005-07) when the Reps controlled the Senate 55-45 and the House 231-203 (one vacancy.) And when you have Rep senators like Collins, Snowe, Specter, and others, it really is difficult to do something significant like say Obamacare. You need 60 votes in the Senate.
Compare that to when Obama took office when he had a 59-41 advange soon to be 60 and 256-178 in the House.
If we have more socialism, then the country will face a crushing fiscal crisis that will destroy the economy and plunge us into chaos. We are approaching $16 trillion in debt and running trillion plus deficits every year since Obama took office. Obama has accrued more debt in four years than Bush in eight years or put another way, more debt has been amassed under Obama than under Presdients Washngton thru Clinton combined.
If we don't change course, we will be committing national suicide. We are much closer to the edge of the cliff than we were in 1994 or 2001. 2012 will be a crossroads election. The status quo is not an option.
As far as you are concerned nothing.You win.Head in sand always trumps reality.
If we cannot wrestle control from the RINOs within our own party, then how will we ever win a national election from a 3rd party?
The ONLY way to win is to persuade a majority of voting Americans that we're right and the democrats and RINOs are wrong. Other than that, Kabar is correct. We will, all Americans, lose.
Some say we can repeat what the Republicans did in 1854-1860 to the Whigs, but in reality the Whigs were on their way out because they were old fashioned philosophers of government rather than extreme party loyalists and demagogues that the democrats had made themselves under Jackson. We needed a similar party to counter them and most folks switched to the Republicans due to the war and firebrand Southern democrats preaching our way or the highway. After the war, with so many war veterans, and having their head of the party assassinated, the party had a lock on people's loyalty for a generation.
People should study the Whigs before they characterize them as 19th Century RINOs. They weren't! They held to the governing principles of Washington and the other founding fathers, and were simply couldn't respond well to democrat lies and demagoguery.