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To: SandyInSeattle
Neither Romney’s dad nor his grandfather were polygamists.

And even if they were, so what? Grandpa isn’t on the ballot

Exactly!

And polygamy was banned by the Mormon Church, way back in the latter part of the nineteenth century.

Any reference to polygamous practices by Mitt Romney's (remote) ancestors is really a very low blow, indeed...

78 posted on 04/21/2012 8:07:37 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
Any reference to polygamous practices by Mitt Romney's (remote) ancestors is really a very low blow, indeed...

Romney's father was indeed born into an anti-American, polygamy colony in Mexico, that was the reference, and it is true.

87 posted on 04/21/2012 8:29:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet/Pope)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist; SandyInSeattle; Brown Deer; ansel12
Any reference to polygamous practices by Mitt Romney's (remote) ancestors is really a very low blow, indeed...

Well, the reference from the original article by the Montana gov is hypocritical because of the bigamy by Obama's father.

(But of course, conservative FREEPERS like you never seem to be able to go on the threads where other posters are pointing that out -- and then labeling those posters as being guilty of some "low blow" for mentioning Obama's ancestry.)

IoW, I think Obama's and Romney's ancestry is up for fair comment. The hypocritical bunch in FREEPERland...and we have quite a few...point to some apparent "low blow" standard whenever Romney's religion or family is mentioned...but don't ever seem to point to the same standard as applying to Obama & his religious ties & family.

163 posted on 04/22/2012 1:17:22 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist; SandyInSeattle; Brown Deer; ansel12
And polygamy was banned by the Mormon Church, way back in the latter part of the nineteenth century.

(No, it wasn't...you've haven't dug very deep into Lds history, have you? Well I have...because my Lds ancestors included a 19th century polygamist)

Polygamy wasn't banned in numerous ways; allow me to spell those out...some of which I already have in post #162...

Back in December, I posted this excellent Web site's historical look @ Mormon polygamy: Polygamy [Everything you might want to possibly know about historical Mormon polygamy]

Did you know, for example, that the first Lds president who wasn't a polygamist didn't come on the scene until 1945? (Even the Lds president who cracked down on new polygamist arrangements in the 1930s/early 1940s was a polygamist!)

Beyond that, let's take a look @ this chronologically:

1890-1910:
LDS leaders solemnized at least 260+ known plural marriages in the post-manifesto years when the church was pretending to be 100% against polygamy (source: Hardy, A Solemn Covenant, 1992)-- most of whom by either apostles like Taylor & Cowley (later ex-communicated) or by Ivins in Mexico, who was rewarded for this & made a general authority in the early 1900s, or by others who became general authorities after solemnizing such plural marriage vows. [So that gets it down under your 122-year-ago claim to the 102-121 year range...lots of living Mormons' grandparents & great grandparents]

1910-early 1960s:
Mormon leaders did not break up most of the polygamous arrangements that were already intact in 1890 & thereafter. B. Carmon Hardy shows in his book's appendix that some of those polygamous unions lasted into the early 1960s...some of those who were secretly solemnized in the early 1900s. [So, this covers the period of LOTS of Mormons' parents & grandparents]

1960s:
(a) Polygamy still psychologically accepted by Lds: Hardy cites a poll taken of mainstream Mormons: 40% say they would engage in polygamy if told to by their "prophet."
(b) Then, LDS apostle Bruce McConkie’s book, Mormon Doctrine (pp. 577-579 of 1966 edition, which was approved by the LDS First Presidency…unlike the initial late 1950s version which was not) says that polygamy will return to the Saints before Jesus returns. [Now we're down to under 50 years...lots of Mormons' parents & grandparents]

2012: Since I already covered this in post #162, I'll simply refer you there...Mormons believe there are Lds men alive now will become eternal polygamists.[Now we come to CURRENT Mormon practice, doctrine, and policy]

When the Mormon Jesus returns: As mentioned Lds "apostle" McConkie taught no polygamy "ban" would be in place. [Wow! Eternal lordship under Christ is a rather long time for Mormon polygamy, is it not?]

165 posted on 04/22/2012 1:36:47 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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