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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
So many great scientists were clerics and the more they sought after the truth, the more of religious superstition got torn down, leading to other consequences, good and bad. The future discoveries lead to further separation of science from religion, when observations and deductions could not be squared with their religious dogma.

The Time Argument is a big problem for those citing the "something from nothing" canard. For God to even perform the first act of anything, Time has to pre-exist God, so that there is meaning in that act of God separating it from the prevailing configuration. Lawrence Krauss has an amazing lecture on this First Cause topic:

A Universe From Nothing

39 posted on 04/20/2012 6:04:09 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
For God to even perform the first act of anything, Time has to pre-exist God, so that there is meaning in that act of God separating it from the prevailing configuration.
I don't get why Time has to pre-exist God. I'm not sure I understand what that would even mean.

Besides that, even if it's somehow true and not reversed (God pre-existed time), how do you know one way or another with enough certainty to make such a statement as "Time has to pre-exist God"?

What is your authority for making that statement? You state it as if its an axiom, not the result of a chain of logical reasoning, so you must have an authority for that axiom. What is it? (Just curious.)

40 posted on 04/21/2012 5:11:31 AM PDT by samtheman
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