“it didn’t have to say it was about making former slaves into citizens. There wouldn’t have been any reconstruction amendment for that matter if the civil war was not fought. No civil war no ‘Reconstruction Amendments’ like the 14th Amendment.”
Perfect example of what the internet calls “insane troll logic.”
“Until you guys acknowledge that there is a distinction between natural law and positive law, we will just go around and around.”
I recognize the distinction. Aristotle was thousands of years ago. The Constitution, by the way, is positive law, as ought to be obvious. It is positive law that makes for U.S. citizens, for without the positive law that is the U.S. Constitution there would be no U.S. to be a citizen of.
The word “natural” in natural born citizen throws you guys. “Natural” is like “nature,” and therefore we must look to Natural Law. God makes Natural Law, and God didn’t write the 14th amendment, therefore only children of two citizen parents can be natural born citizens. Whatever. I admit this line of thought is beyond my experience.
The first Congress, and President Washington, passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 which specifically added those born abroad or at sea to citizen parents were also "natural born citizens" so if this first congress believed a simple statute could alter who and when a person is a "natural born citizen," the idea a constitutional amendment cannot is beyond lunacy.
Among the weakest foundations of Birther logic is they have no single legal theory. For some, Santorum is not a "natural born citizen" because his father was an immigrant. For others Romney is not because his father, who was never anything except a US citizen, is not a "natural born citizen" because his father was not born inside the US.
It's as "simple" as naturalized vs. birthright citizenship. Marco Rubio's citizenship was by birthright (born in FL) so he's a "natural born citizen" just like the governor Puerto Rico (born in PR to PR-born US citizens).
I wish birthers would find elsewhere to troll their crackpot theories. Some are probably from the DU or elsewhere aiming to make FR look as nutty as possible.