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To: MrB; Huebolt
You don't go nearly far enough. The Scriptures don't say just "some people" are born that way (depraved). The Scriptures clearly teach that every person is born that way. Deprived, meaning deprived of Sanctifying Grace and headed toward ruin.

That's the reason why we need a Savior. Jesus didn't die for us because H was so impressed with our lovable goodness. He died for us because we were so incorrigibly sick, selfish, stupid, wicked, and clueless, that He knew that only the most extreme intervention possible would save us.

"For when we were yet helpless, in due time Christ died for the ungodly... God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

It's as exceptionless as you can get.

37 posted on 04/18/2012 7:53:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Starting wth Moses and the prophets, He explained what was in all the Scriptures concerning Himself.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Your excellent post deserves multiple posting. Doing my part.

You don't go nearly far enough. The Scriptures don't say just "some people" are born that way (depraved). The Scriptures clearly teach that every person is born that way. Deprived, meaning deprived of Sanctifying Grace and headed toward ruin.

That's the reason why we need a Savior. Jesus didn't die for us because H was so impressed with our lovable goodness. He died for us because we were so incorrigibly sick, selfish, stupid, wicked, and clueless, that He knew that only the most extreme intervention possible would save us.

"For when we were yet helpless, in due time Christ died for the ungodly... God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

It's as exceptionless as you can get.

44 posted on 04/18/2012 8:20:00 AM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus is Lord)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Gen 6:5 The LORD observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and He saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil.


just read that the other day.


48 posted on 04/18/2012 9:02:39 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
He died for us because we were so incorrigibly sick, selfish, stupid, wicked, and clueless, that He knew that only the most extreme intervention possible would save us.

Standing and applauding...outstanding!

57 posted on 04/18/2012 9:34:01 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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