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To: Finny
Voting for Romney in the general is the antithesis of practical, unless you are thinking of practical suicide.

I respectfully disagree. In the primaries you do your damnedest to get your man at the top of the ticket. My guy didn't win.

Now, if you are saying that given the two presumptive choices, that obama is a better selection, then I am going to say that you are wrong. America can survive 4 years of Romney (despite his liberal foibles), especially if Congress is nominally conservative in nature in both houses; a very real possibility. In fact, he's such a wind sock, politically, that I think he can be nudged to the right a bit. He may even be conservative-lite for four years, just to sick his thumb in people's eyes.

Even if Congress goes red, an obama victory will result in more irreparable damage to the very core of America's character. I am not certain the country can weather that; as a whole our nation lacks the character and morals to prevail such challenges.

You want to show conviction this fall? Take up arms and rebel against the tyranny of the Federal Government. Put your life and liberty on the line, and really fight. Go all in.

Otherwise, not voting for obama in a way that defeats him is not conviction, it's vanity. It's putting personal dislike of Romney's CINO tendencies above the future of the country. Opting out of the voting process, at this juncture is abdicating the field to the enemy when un-neccessary, as far as I am concerned.

Vote how you want; honestly at this point it doesn't rally matter to me. America is going to get exactly the type of governance it deserves. My personal convictions are such that I can weather what ever comes my way, and I won't have to do it alone..

80 posted on 04/17/2012 11:59:19 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig

“Otherwise, not voting for obama in a way that defeats him is not conviction, it’s vanity.”

Well said.


85 posted on 04/17/2012 12:42:46 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Turbo Pig
[N]ot voting for obama in a way that defeats him is not conviction, it's vanity. It's putting personal dislike of Romney's CINO tendencies ...

You're mistaken in that assessment, and you insult me to boot. Indeed, may I respectfully suggest that your quickness to attribute my motives to "personal dislike" and vanity, rather implicates your own flawed assumptions.

It ain't rocket science to understand that when you vote for liberalism, you get liberalism. It seems to me those who urge voting for Romney are in wholesale denial of that simple truth.

With liberal, moderate Romney a) triumphant and b) the defacto head of the GOP, politicians in the Republican party will have GOOD REASON to figure going left will benefit them more than going right. Romney's history reveals no nudging, but a decided proclivity for bigger, more intrusive government, and should "moderate" prevail AGAIN in a GOP election, you can bet that Republicans will be nudged leftward, In fact, to think the party might move RIGHT with a Romney administration is wishful fantasy.

Chicken Little hyperbole aside, it is totally up in the air as to what four more years of Obama might bring, especially if he was re-elected with such an anti-mandate as a 34% (best case scenario) plurality. It's anybody's guess as to how much damage he could do when a clear majority voted against him and simultaneously conservatives won a major battle in the GOP by defeating Romney.

On the other hand, there's no guessing -- it is logically certain that Romney in the White House would make liberalism more powerful in BOTH parties.

... an obama victory will result in more irreparable damage to the very core of America's character.... yet THINK further: The damage can ONLY be repaired if the country moves right; A Romney victory would amplify Obama's damage by making liberalism and statism's source the Republican party as well as the Democrat party.

Romney would effectively castrate conservatives in their own party, and the moderate wing would CERTAINLY constantly be reminding thee and me and all other conservatives: "Listen up, we moderates are the reason the GOP even has the White House, so you'd better shut up and sit down because WE won."

Again, this isn't rocket science or wishful thinking, it's common sense.

I've made it clear, and will continue to urge, that the SANE thing is to VOTE AGAINST LIBERALISM because when you vote FOR liberalism, you get liberalism. Guaranteed. I want patriots who understand that the real enemy is statism and liberalism, to avoid opting out of voting, and instead to figuratively crawl over broken glass to vote AGAINST liberalism by voting against both Obama and Romney, as they are both liberals. Patriots who vote such will weaken the political viability of whichever statist wins.

You want to show conviction this fall? Take up arms and rebel against the tyranny of the Federal Government. Put your life and liberty on the line, and really fight. Go all in.

Please translate for me. What are you proposing?

86 posted on 04/17/2012 12:48:09 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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