So I guess I back to my original two points which you ignore time and time again. Where EXACTLY in Article II, did President Lincoln have ANY, one iota of AUTHORITY to Preserve the Union? Where forthedeclaration? How about suspending habeas corpus? Arresting State legislators, imprisoning political opponents? Where? You truly are a serf who serves a feudal king, this time 535 of them. You mock Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Jefferson, Madison with your positions. You name call when facts are presented. You're the type of person that binds people down with incorrect history. Did you even read the ratification documents? Crickets. You would have been mocked by the majority of Founders as would Lincoln for the anti-inalienable rights position you both hold. You have NO understanding for freedom and a firm grasp on unlimited submission to your national overlords. You will eventually lead to a tyranny that my children and grandchildren will suffer unless of course I and the millions across the UNION can stop people like you. Which I believe in the end we will, because we stand for FREEDOM, not UNLIMITED SUBMISSION to a national government.
Point two, will you shoot me and my family or authorize the shooting of me and my family, or support a government who would shoot me if I'm part of a State that desires to secede? Please answer with yes or no so I can see just how strongly you are committed to your ideology. Yes or no, will you point a gun at me and shoot me to "preserve the Union?" Talk is easy, but if my side is successful, and a few States decided to go their own way and form a new Union...will forthedeclaration not just talk about his support for Lincolnian policy, but will you actually shoot me? Talk is cheap friend...will you live out your political theory and kill me to preserve the Union?
Just curious. When you secede, what will you do to that large minority of citizens who resist secession, possibly by force, in your state?
Will you use lethal force to put down their insurrection? If not, how can you maintain your secession against violent resistance?
If you will use lethal force against those who resist secession, how is your position morally different from that you posed?