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To: fortheDeclaration
It is high time that the claim to secede at will should be put down by the public opinion

Public opinion, not governmental force.

A Union of the States seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force agist. a State, would look more like a declaration of war, than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.
The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787

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In fact, he previously notes:

The former as one only of the parties, owes fidelity to it, till released by consent, or absolved by an intolerable abuse of the power created.

Intolerable abuse....like refusing to uphold Constitutional provisions, placing punishing tariffs on [mostly] Southern goods, and threatening to obliterate the entire economy of a agrarian based society?

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You might also bother to note he is talking of a single As for Madison, clearly you have only read what you want on the subject to defend your false view.

ROFLMAO! False view? That's rich, particularly coming from someone who's idea of research is doing a verbatim copy & paste.....from a BLOG!

53 posted on 04/17/2012 5:34:51 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
I gave you the evidence from Madison's own hand.

That is why I 'cut and pasted'. Your precedent post was a joke, it had nothing to do with the right of the President to raise troops to put down a rebellion.

Andrew Jackson had every plans to go into South Carolina and hang Calhoun if they did not pull back their nullification nonsense.

61 posted on 04/18/2012 3:29:26 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: MamaTexan
What I gave you were some links so you could actually learn something, which you clearly have no intention of doing.

Still have questions about Madison's rejection of secession?

Did you know Robert E. Lee didn't think the States had a right to secede either?

Or do you need me to show you that as well.

Your comments only show how shallow and incomplete your knowledge is.

I hope you aren't homeschooling anyone!

63 posted on 04/18/2012 3:37:54 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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