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To: BroJoeK
Please provide evidence showing where anyone ever considered that Emerich de Vattel's book the Law of Nations has authority over or supercedes the US Constitution.

I've already given the evidence from Founders, early American legal treatise and Judicial Office holders to 'prove' Vattel was used as THE basis for the treaty known as the Constitution. I will not do so again.

The evidence has proven the northern states [and later the federal government] repeatedly violated the provisions of Article V, and consequently violated both the Constitutional supremacy clause and the Law of Nature and Nations.

The South weren't the ones 'violating' the Laws, they were trying to uphold them.

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I also note that you again demand evidence while providing none. You obfuscate the question, fail to acknowledge when a point has been made and change the direction of the discussion instead of discussing the evidence itself.

Since that was my THIRD request for hard evidence to the contrary, and that's the THIRD time your reply was "Blah, blah.... you're wrong", you needn't waste your time in responding, as I will no longer be responding to you.

303 posted on 05/13/2012 7:07:50 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
I've already given the evidence from Founders, early American legal treatise and Judicial Office holders to 'prove' Vattel was used as THE basis for the treaty known as the Constitution.

I believe that I understand your line of reasoning better now. I underestimated the importance that you placed on this foreigner Vattel. I kept thinking to myself "But isn't it leftists like Ruth Bader Ginsburg who look externally for the basis of our laws?!" That threw me for a bit.

I understand your appreciation for the reference that Vattel provided to our founders but reject your notion that they did a copy/paste of his opinion into our laws.

I will not do so again.

Whew, I'm glad that's over with!

The evidence has proven the northern states [and later the federal government] repeatedly violated the provisions of Article V, and consequently violated both the Constitutional supremacy clause and the Law of Nature and Nations.

No, actually nothing has been proven except that the confederate states attempted an insurrection and were put down.

Since that was my THIRD request for hard evidence to the contrary, and that's the THIRD time your reply was "Blah, blah.... you're wrong", you needn't waste your time in responding, as I will no longer be responding to you.

"Blah, blah, blah..."

304 posted on 05/13/2012 8:08:41 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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