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Riiiiiiight. It all hinged on that debate rather than the tens of millions of dollars in carpet bombed attack ads from Romney and his Super PAC against which Newt lacked the immediate resources to counter.

Romney should thank Newt for making him hire a new debate coach.

The mocking reception Newt's space speech--filled with mainstream thinking of those who still care about space--will be a mile marker in America's fall from greatness and its apathetic acceptance of coming irrelevancy to humanity's advancement.

Culturally American exceptionalism is dead; our influence continues to diminish; the American era is all but over. We are in a transitory period with China most likely to dominate through the second half of the century.

I watched the debates. Romney didn’t cause Newt to fail. He attacked Newt, like he attacks everyone, all the time (Newt even mentioned that in the debate).

The fact is, Newt could have won those two debates, as he had won all previous debates. He didn’t. He lost. And then went on to lose the primary.

And now you’re saying the debates didn’t matter. Oh well, I guess we can go round and round with the postmortems ad infinitum.

Neither one of us is going to change the other’s mind. We have to agree to disagree on this. Or not. I don’t really care that much.

But what I think is what I still think despite your suggestion that it was the money, not the debate, that mattered.

You’re are TOTALLY wrong..

That debate wasn’t even remembered in the carpet bombing that went on in Florida - and I know, I was there.

Romney ran 17 million dollars of negative advertising against Newt. Jeb Bush and all of his florida toadies and minions were behind the scenes working for him. Marco Rubio came out and almost endorsed Romney, there were filthy lies all over the place.

Did you even hear of bloody thursday?

There were romney surrogates showing at every newt stop and holding cause with the press and blasting Newt and lying about him... Mitt romney, by some estimates, ran about 200,000 robocalls the last week, his mailings were about a 4-inch stack the last week of the campaign.

the state GOP was bussing in people to Mitt events, and Mitt’s ads were horrific, not just the usual slime, they were horrific and filled with lies. The washington post said one 30 sec ad had 4 lies in it... that’s one lie every 6 seconds in one spot... there were 120,000.

The last 3 days before the vote, if you watched tv anywhere in florida there were approximately 5 anti-newt ads per hour - that is how deep his ad buys were.

Romney hired telemarketers to make live voice calls for him, and the entire GOP conservative echelon was spewing on about Newt... from the a b and c teams. And there were a few counties borderline North that usually report fairly early, that reported very very late and showed with Romney with a razor thin, and you know what that means.

Let me tell you something, Newt could have have hit 3 grand slams in the debate, undisputed, unquestioned and he would have still lost florida. Because Romney would have just amped up his attack accordingly to meet newt’s threshold.

There was a conference call with Mitt and his staff before his campaigning began in earnest and the goal was to destroy Newt... destroy him.

And mitt signed off on it.

Santorum never received that kind of treatment up until the day he quite because he was never the threat Newt was...

Instead of badmouthing Newt re Florida understand this:

He won all of the counties in teh north...

He still made a decent showing and had Santorum done right by his country he could have came out and helped Newt before he ran home and asked his supporters to vote for Newt...

AND FINALLY, Newt survived. He wasn’t meant to survive. Romney intended for Newt to be carried off the battlefield after florida, forever dispensed with, and his path clear to the nomination.

NEWT IS STILL HERE. Battered, bloodied, healing and fighting on.

To be clear, I don’t disagree Newt lost that debate. All I am saying things would have turned out the same had he won it...

Newt is still fighting, if you truly do support him please help..