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To: mek1959

What needs to happen is already happening to a certain extent but needs to go much further. The states need to stand against the feds.

One problem is that the states have been selling their powers to the feds for many decades and the feds learned early on that they can play states against each other.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 7:01:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

“It seems to me that they have compromised their status as independent sovereigns because they are so dependent on what the federal government has done,” the chief justice said during Wednesday’s nearly three hours of hearings on the controversial health insurance law.

Indeed, our last line of defense against an out-of-control national government has sold itself into slavery and as Roberts stated, “compromised their status as independent sovereigns.” Sadly, everybody is so focused on a pretend solution (i.e. getting a republican into the White House) they’re ignoring the very entity that could actually reign in the national government...the States.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 7:05:24 PM PDT by mek1959
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To: cripplecreek; All

A great speech by Janice Rogers Brown in 2000, where she addresses the issue of when/if it will be time for another revolution. And remember....she said this over a decade ago, what would she say now? Read the whole thing!

http://ejournalofpoliticalscience.org/janicerogersbrown.html

Of course, given the vision of the American Revolution just outlined, you might think none of that can happen here. I have news for you. It already has. The revolution is over. What started in the 1920’s; became manifest in 1937; was consolidated in the 1960’s; is now either building to a crescendo or getting ready to end with a whimper.

At this moment, it seems likely leviathan will continue to lumber along, picking up ballast and momentum, crushing everything in its path. Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates, and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible.

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I will close with a story I like a lot. It’s a true story. It happened on June 10, 1990. A British Airways jet bound for Malaga, Spain, took off from Birmingham, England. It was expected to be a routine flight. As the jet climbed through the 23,000-foot level, there was a loud bang; the cockpit windshield directly in front of the captain blew out. The sudden decompression sucked Captain Lancaster out of his seatbelt and into the hole left by the windscreen. A steward who happened to be in the cockpit managed to snag the captain’s feet as he hurtled past. Another steward rushed onto the flight deck, strapped himself into the captain’s chair and, helped by other members of the crew, clung with all his strength to the captain. The slipstream was so fierce, they were unable to drag the pilot back into the plane. His clothing was ripped from his body. With Lancaster plastered against the nose of the jet, the co-pilot donned an oxygen mask and flew the plane to Southampton —approximately 15 minutes away — and landed safely. The captain had a fractured elbow, wrist and thumb; a mild case of frostbite, but was otherwise unharmed.

We find ourselves, like the captain, in a situation that is hopeless but not yet desperate. The arcs of history, culture, philosophy, and science all seem to be converging on this temporal instant. Familiar arrangements are coming apart; valuable things are torn from our hands, snatched away by the decompression of our fragile ark of culture. But, it is too soon to despair. The collapse of the old system may be the crucible of a new vision. We must get a grip on what we can and hold on. Hold on with all the energy and imagination and ferocity we possess. Hold on even while we accept the darkness. We know not what miracles may happen; what heroic possibilities exist. We may be only moments away from a new dawn.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 7:20:39 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: cripplecreek
Yep, too many players at the state level feeding at the Fed’s pork trough, and giving away the rights of the states for personal gain. The feds need to be put back into their proper place, and schooled on their constitutional responsibilities, by the people if necessary.
9 posted on 04/13/2012 7:29:13 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. It’s time for bold conservatives to take over the states and tell the feds to back off. Not in their constiutional duties, but meddling in the states duties.

Fight the RINO’s locally first and then send more conservatives from that point to DC to take on the rest.

Unfortunately, our governor in TN is a weenie RINO like our two senators.

But the GOP controlled legislature just passed a bill to eliminate the state tax on estates after a death and lowered the sales tax on food a quarter percent.

A good start but not enough. We have half a percent of “temporary sales tax” still in the code since 1990 on all taxable sales. At least we don’t have an income tax here.


22 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:52 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: cripplecreek

“One problem is that the states have been selling their powers to the feds for many decades and the feds learned early on that they can play states against each other.”

Divide and conquer is a standard tool of tyrants going back to the beginning. It is somewhat mystifying that the forefathers left us so poorly prepared to deal with this obvious stratigy instead largely relying upon the power & inclination of a “free press”.

A “Free press” that has while serving from time to time, has just as often been cooped by folks interested in centerlizing power. The reason we are where we are now is no doubt a result of the radical new capabilities of information distribution & publishing made possible by the internet.

No longer do we have just a handful of channels to be coopted for IDEA & information to get thou. Every voice no matter how marginizes has a medium to get his or her message out to be judged on merits.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 11:15:59 PM PDT by Monorprise
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