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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Zimmerman could have run up to Martin, called him the N-word, spit in his face and then slapped him. But the moment Martin got on top of Zimmerman and started to bang his head on the pavement, Martin became the aggressor. Period. You don't like it, change the LAW. Open your doe eyes...

If that's the case, they need to change the stand your ground law.

340 posted on 04/11/2012 6:37:11 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
If that's the case, they need to change the stand your ground law.

Without stand-your-ground, Zimmerman would have to flee. But being on the ground underneath Martin, he had no chance to flee, so stand-your-ground does not apply, it was simple self-defense.

374 posted on 04/11/2012 7:10:02 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Doe Eyes
If that's the case, they need to change the stand your ground law.

You just don't get it, do you? That's NOT a "stand your ground law." It's the regular, ordinary old law on self-defense. What happened to my friend happened in the nineties... long before anyone had ever conceived of a "stand your ground" law!

See, the word "defense" in "self-defense" has a meaning. So long as you are defending against an attack or threat, you can claim self-defense. As soon as you begin attacking (note the difference between that word and "defense"), especially after gaining the advantage (let's say, to make up a random scenario, you were sitting on top of someone, slamming his head into the ground while he screamed for help), you have become the aggressor and the new victim can now legally defend himself from you.

It's a simple and logical concept that has been part of common law for centuries...

549 posted on 04/12/2012 8:23:50 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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