Posted on 04/10/2012 1:26:36 PM PDT by DNA.2012
Thank you for the thoughtful response. I agree.
In all likelihood, there is more than sufficient opposition to the proposed Missouri law, but much more needs to be done.
First, I would definitely sign onto protecting the rights of all of the good fathers even if that meant that there would be an occasional legal wrangle with a few not-good ones in accordance with your scenario.
That said, fathers who did not want to raise the child would be unlikely to oppose adoption because they would wind up with 18 years of child support payments.
Also, a simple pre-condition can be built in: namely that for a father to veto an adoption, he has to be willing to accept full custody.
Seems as though you have never experienced Western divorce court as a white male. You would be in for a rude awakening. Google: “parental alienation”
On “18 years” A check of the most recent CS laws reveals that only THREE states have CS ending at age 18 without caveat. The trend now is for CS to go beyond age 21 regardless of circumstances. And beyond 21 if a child is “special needs” which most children of divorce are now classified.
Once the biomom exercises her court condoned and approved “parental sovereignty” and squeezes biodad out of the children’s lives, no real parenting takes place. The children are “friended” not parented and they instantly become “special needs” due to behavioral issues. It’s a catch 22 for white males who dare to marry and reproduce.
As a “second wife” to a man who has been alienated from his children purposely by his ex wife (all three children conceived after marriage) with the court winking in approval (his ex wife is practicallly the MAYOR of her small town and works as a CPS caseworker) AND is also being sodomized sideways by said ex-wife with a 12 foot pole as far as child support is concerned; so much so that he couldn’t possibly afford to live on his own and be self supporting, I’d advise any male (particularly caucasian) to avoid marrying and breeding with Western women until such time as the laws DO change.
People’s opinions are very much the product of their own personal experiences.
And if you ever want to meet a 20-year-old spoiled brat, talk with one whose father is forced to send money for that 20-year-old regardless of that 20-year-old’s attitude.
I had a classmate who was just such a 20-year-old, and her disrespect towards her father was incredible.
Entitlements without corresponding obligations - even obligations of good conduct - breed disrespect and very bad personalities.
It is basically handing the bio-mom a shopping list and telling the bio-dad that either he pays for everything on the bio-mom’s shopping list on a very short timetable or he will have failed to buy a right to be a parent for his own child.
>>Seems as though you have never experienced Western divorce court as a white male. You would be in for a rude awakening. Google: “parental alienation”<<
1) This is about unmarried men who create kids out of wedlock
2) I am very specific about it being anti-male.
3) I know that married guys in general and dads in particular get the shaft in family court. I was barely able to get away with a huge 2 year alimony on a 3 year marriage (no kids) BECAUSE she was lazy and wouldn’t work — the very reason we got married.
Believe me, I have been on BOTH ends of this issue. Married in the late seventies and into the eighties, I had two children (within wedlock) where upon divorce I received NO child support (pre draconian CS laws), worked several jobs and was able to parent properly and traditionally without alienating both children from my ex. Both children are grown, independent, fully functioning and contributing members of society. Something I won’t be able to say for my current husband’s children of divorce.
Seems biomoms under the age of 45 are more narcissistic and juvenile than ever; their mothers probably bought into the phoney self esteem and no spank methods of non parenting. Thus raising self-centered, juvenile, egotistical diva children with adult spousal status (100% authority and 0% responsibility) primed to be the classic western 45 and under wife who dumps dad and takes his wallet.
I am saying that it matters not out of wedlock or in wedlock. Caucasian Western men get shafted when they choose to marry and breed with Western women of today (especially the 45 and under set) due to the draconian “have our cake and eat it to” bio-mom centric family court laws.
The only way to resolve this problem is:
1. Men refrain from marrying AND breeding (in or out of wedlock) with women in Western countries.
2. Women refrain from marrying men who have been saddled with the tremendous burden of draconian and out of date alimony and child support laws from their “first family.”
Yes there IS a debtor’s prison in the U.S. Go into arrears on CS due to loss of employment through no fault of your own and try to get a downward modification via a court date six months later (while arrears acrue) then be laughed out of court by the magistrate as he/she imputes your income. Go directly to jail.
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