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To: MHGinTN
Do you believe that barry bastard fascist can succeed in collapsing the nation if he gets four more years to work at it? Do you believe the collapse is going to happen regardless of who sits int he Oval Office?

I do not believe he can collapse the nation, but I think he can continue pushing us down the road to socialism, and I also believe that Romney will continue pushing us down the road to socialism. The difference is how fast they are pushing us.

This is a problem that we have been ignoring - both parties are supporting the kinds of things that will push us into socialism or into actions that will dilute the political power of Conservatives. Look at education - No Child Left Behind set the stage for eventual federal control of something that should be a county issue, a state issue at the most. While Teddy Kennedy was the champion for NCLB in Congress on the Senate side, and John Boehner on the House side, who was behind NCLB to begin with? The Bush administration - they were pushing it the week they entered the White House. Bush was pushing it within 3-4 days of taking office, and in people like Kennedy and Boehner he found his support. That's just one example, and btw, I don't think it's a coincidence that a Bush nominee helped save Obamacare in the Supreme Court, but there are other examples before and after Bush.

For over 20 years, we've been getting more and more moderate/left leaning nominees. Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain, and now Romney, the most liberal of the bunch. Now some people claim that it's just the way the country is and that we as Conservatives are a dwindling minority of old fuddy-duddies that belong in the 1950s and not the 2010s. Maybe that's true, but I know there are still enough of us around that the GOP can't keep holding us hostage.

Look at it this way. If you are in a car headed towards a cliff marked "Socialism", you don't want Obama or Romney in the driver's seat, because both are going to drive you right off that cliff, it's just a matter of whether you're doing 70mph or 30mph.

You want somebody who is going to put on the brakes. Right now, the GOP only seems interested in slowing things to slow down enough so that we, the Conservatives, will shut up and stop pestering them.
1,305 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I believed Newt Gingrich could put those brakes on. Alas, GOP voters in the primaries were told that Newt’s marriage problems were a no starter, that he was not pure enough to be the nominee. Now we have this wet finger in the wind liberal who appears to be the nominee. Well, perhaps he doesn’t have the marriage baggage, but it is still unknown just which way his finger will feel the wind blowing. I would rather go with that however than to allow an enemy of This Republic another four years, because I beleive he can collpase this nation in that time. Until we have a veto proof majority against the commie bastard, We The People are in grave danger of losing our remaining sovereignty ... if it’s not already ended. I want to know what fools chose a Spanish Soros owned company to count American votes. THAT is too globalist elite deceit prone for my tastes. But then I favor a darn paper ballot with a copy to carry away from the voting booth, even if it takes a week or more to count all the votes. I’m no longer tolerant of treasonous vote cheating. Execute a few of the bastards is what I would do.


1,307 posted on 07/02/2012 7:21:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: af_vet_rr


I do not believe he can collapse the nation,”

I don’t either. Anyone wanting to be honest about this situation needs to look at why we are where we are. Yes, O and the dems have a whole lot to do with that, but at any point since the 10 election, our Republican held congress has had the power to stop them cold.

There is not a single legitimate reason Bohner could not have totally locked government down, refusing to pass/forward ANYTHING through the house until O and the Dems ‘moderated’ their takeover.

That’s why we elect people. To represent us.And they did not. Or more accurately, Bohner and McConnell did not. They played the DC game and ‘moderated’ themselves, shutting down the people we sent them in 10.

Barack Obama and the dems can only destroy America if Congress ALLOWS them to.

All this “Romney will...XXXXXX” crap is just crap. We don’t need Romney to do squat. We need Congress to fulfill it’s elected duty and REPRESENT the will of the people and exercize every iota of their power to do so. If they did that, then Obama would have no money to enforce his will.

Game, set, match.

And as I said to the ABO brigade earlier, I invite them to find a mistake in this logic as well.


1,315 posted on 07/03/2012 9:02:22 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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